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From: Arjan van de Ven <arjanv@redhat.com>
To: Joe Thornber <thornber@fib011235813.fsnet.co.uk>
Cc: lvm-devel@sistina.com, Jim McDonald <Jim@mcdee.net>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@turbolabs.com>,
	linux-lvm@sistina.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	evms-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Evms-devel] Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing
Date: Fri Feb  1 03:55:01 2002	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020201045518.A10893@devserv.devel.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020131125211.A8934@fib011235813.fsnet.co.uk>; from thornber@fib011235813.fsnet.co.uk on Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 12:52:11PM +0000

On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 12:52:11PM +0000, Joe Thornber wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 01:52:29PM -0600, Steve Pratt wrote:
> > Joe Thornber wrote:
> > >On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 10:03:40PM +0000, Jim McDonald wrote:
> > >> Also, does/where does this fit in with EVMS?
> > 
> > >EVMS differs from us in that they seem to be trying to move the whole
> > >application into the kernel,
> > 
> > No, not really.  We only put in the kernel the things that make sense to be
> > in the kernel, discovery logic, ioctl support, I/O path.  All configuration
> > is handled in user space.
> 
> There's still a *lot* of code in there; > 26,000 lines in fact.
> Whereas device-mapper weighs in at ~2,600 lines.  This is just because
> you've decided to take a different route from us, you may be proven to
> be correct.

There is one thing that might spoil the device-mapper "just simple stuff
only" thing: moving active volumes around. Doing that in userspace reliably
is impossible and basically needs to be done in kernelspace (it's an
operation comparable with raid1 resync, a not even that hard in kernel
space). However, that sort of automatically requires kernelspace to know
about volumes, and from there it's a small step....

Greetings,
   Arjan van de Ven

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-01  3:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-31 13:54 [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 14:05 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady " Jeff Layton
2002-02-01  3:29   ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
2002-02-01  9:43     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-05  8:04     ` James Hawtin
2002-02-05  8:09       ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-02-05 11:13       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-05 12:28         ` [linux-lvm] (OT) Backups (was Re: LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing...) Chad C. Walstrom
2002-02-06 13:13       ` [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Benjamin Scott
2002-02-06 13:39         ` Daniel Whicker
2002-02-06 13:46           ` James Mello
2002-02-06 14:35             ` Anders Widman
2002-02-07  3:01               ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:17                 ` Petro
2002-02-07  4:34                   ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  7:19                     ` Petro
2002-02-07  7:54                       ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:55               ` Dieter Stueken
2002-02-06 13:46         ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06 13:48         ` Theo Van Dinter
2002-02-06 15:45           ` Austin Gonyou
2002-02-06 13:51         ` Petro
2002-02-06 13:52         ` Kirby C. Bohling
2002-02-06 13:55         ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 14:03           ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:03             ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 20:08               ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:11                 ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-07  3:10                   ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  4:53                     ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-07  5:31                       ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07 17:05                         ` Wolfgang Weisselberg
2002-02-08 20:04                           ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07  3:03           ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07  3:17             ` Petro
2002-02-07  4:15               ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-12  1:00             ` Marc MERLIN
2002-01-31 15:19 ` [Evms-devel] Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Andrew Clausen
2002-02-01  3:47 ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  3:55   ` Arjan van de Ven [this message]
2002-02-01  4:04     ` [Evms-devel] " Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  4:13       ` [linux-lvm] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01  4:31         ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01  5:06         ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01  8:32         ` [linux-lvm] " Alan Cox
2002-02-01  8:59           ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 16:01   ` [evms-devel] [linux-lvm] " Kevin Corry
2002-02-01 17:17     ` Alan Cox
2002-02-02  7:40     ` Andrew Clausen
2002-02-02 13:30       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-03  6:22     ` Joe Thornber

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