From: Jeff Layton <laytonjb@bellsouth.net>
To: linux-lvm@sistina.com
Subject: Re: [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre)
Date: Wed Feb 6 20:11:02 2002 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3C61E289.DD2CFF54@bellsouth.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.GSO.4.21.0202062006560.17353-100000@psasolar.private.psa.pencom.com
James Mello wrote:
> > > Petabytes are another matter entirely. If you must absolutely have that
> > > much data backed up, you start looking at more exotic solutions. Backing
> > > up solely to disk is *way* to expensive, hence the wonderful, but of
> > > poorly implemented idea of HSM.... Disk and tape :)
> >
> > Yes, HSM has never panned out the way it was supposed to.
> > However, try backing up Petabytes with tape in a reasonable
> > amount of time. While I've never configure such a system,
> > the numbers from systems I have seen indicate that disk is
> > much cheaper than tape (even if tape is a feasible solution
> > because of speed).
>
> HSM systems that I've seen work generally used some form of nearline disk
> storage and an *HUGE* array of tape drives to write too (100+ tape
> drives). The data went to near line storage (which they only held for
> like 24 hours) and was then written to the tape. The deal is, the more
> data you *must* save, the more money you *must* spend.
Agreed.
I've never had good luck keeping HSM systems up
for very long. The ones I have experience with liked to lock
up at least once a week and the software never liked to be
restarted - had to reboot the whole box.
Jeff
>
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Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-31 13:54 [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Steve Pratt
2002-01-31 14:05 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementationre ady " Jeff Layton
2002-02-01 3:29 ` Heinz J . Mauelshagen
2002-02-01 9:43 ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-05 8:04 ` James Hawtin
2002-02-05 8:09 ` Patrick Caulfield
2002-02-05 11:13 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-05 12:28 ` [linux-lvm] (OT) Backups (was Re: LVM reimplementationre ady for beta testing...) Chad C. Walstrom
2002-02-06 13:13 ` [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Benjamin Scott
2002-02-06 13:39 ` Daniel Whicker
2002-02-06 13:46 ` James Mello
2002-02-06 14:35 ` Anders Widman
2002-02-07 3:01 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07 3:17 ` Petro
2002-02-07 4:34 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07 7:19 ` Petro
2002-02-07 7:54 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07 3:55 ` Dieter Stueken
2002-02-06 13:46 ` Andreas Dilger
2002-02-06 13:48 ` Theo Van Dinter
2002-02-06 15:45 ` Austin Gonyou
2002-02-06 13:51 ` Petro
2002-02-06 13:52 ` Kirby C. Bohling
2002-02-06 13:55 ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 14:03 ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:03 ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-06 20:08 ` James Mello
2002-02-06 20:11 ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2002-02-07 3:10 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07 4:53 ` Jeff Layton
2002-02-07 5:31 ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07 17:05 ` Wolfgang Weisselberg
2002-02-08 20:04 ` James Hawtin
2002-02-07 3:03 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-07 3:17 ` Petro
2002-02-07 4:15 ` Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ
2002-02-12 1:00 ` Marc MERLIN
2002-01-31 15:19 ` [Evms-devel] Re: [linux-lvm] Re: [lvm-devel] [ANNOUNCE] LVM reimplementation ready for beta testing Andrew Clausen
2002-02-01 3:47 ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01 3:55 ` [Evms-devel] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01 4:04 ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01 4:13 ` [linux-lvm] " Arjan van de Ven
2002-02-01 4:31 ` Joe Thornber
2002-02-01 5:06 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 8:32 ` [linux-lvm] " Alan Cox
2002-02-01 8:59 ` [linux-lvm] Re: [Evms-devel] " Stephen C. Tweedie
2002-02-01 16:01 ` [evms-devel] [linux-lvm] " Kevin Corry
2002-02-01 17:17 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-02 7:40 ` Andrew Clausen
2002-02-02 13:30 ` Alan Cox
2002-02-03 6:22 ` Joe Thornber
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-06 21:10 [linux-lvm] Backup costs (was: LVM reimplementationre) Richard Barbara
2002-02-07 10:24 ` Scott Laird
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