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From: "H . J . Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
To: Hiroyuki Machida <machida@sm.sony.co.jp>
Cc: kaz@ashi.footprints.net, macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl,
	libc-alpha@sources.redhat.com, linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [libc-alpha] Re: PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:00:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020131230050.C32690@lucon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020201.135903.123568420.machida@sm.sony.co.jp>; from machida@sm.sony.co.jp on Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 01:59:03PM +0900

On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 01:59:03PM +0900, Hiroyuki Machida wrote:
> 
> From: Kaz Kylheku <kaz@ashi.footprints.net>
> Subject: Re: [libc-alpha] Re: PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 20:02:25 -0800 (PST)
> 
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Hiroyuki Machida wrote:
> > > Please note that "sc" may fail even if nobody write the
> > > variable. (See P.211 "8.4.2 Load-Linked/Sotre-Conditional" of "See 
> > > MIPS RUN" for more detail.) 
> > > So, after your patch applied, compare_and_swap() may fail, even if
> > > *p is equal to oldval.
> > 
> > I can't think of anything that will break because of this, as long
> > as the compare_and_swap eventually succeeds on some subsequent trial.
> > If the atomic operation has to abort for some reason other than *p being
> > unequal to oldval, that should be cool.
> 
> I mean that this patch breaks the spec of compare_and_swap().
> In most case, this patch may works as Kaz said. If this patch have
> no side-effect to any application, it's ok to apply the patch. But
> we can't know how to use compare_and_swap() in all aplications in a
> whole world. So we have to follow the spec.  
> 

Please note that the old compare_and_swap is broken. If you use
compare_and_swap to check if *p == oldval, my patch doesn't help
you. But if you use it to swap old/new, my patch works fine. But I
don't think you can use it check if *p == oldval since *p can change
at any time. It is the same as simply using "*p == oldval". I don't
see my patch should break any sane applications.


H.J.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-01  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-31 20:35 PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips H . J . Lu
2002-01-31 22:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-31 22:41   ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01  3:35     ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01  4:02       ` [libc-alpha] " Kaz Kylheku
2002-02-01  4:02         ` Kaz Kylheku
2002-02-01  4:59         ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01  7:00           ` H . J . Lu [this message]
2002-02-01 11:12             ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01 10:49           ` Andreas Schwab
2002-02-01 11:23             ` Geoff Keating
2002-02-01  7:10         ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01  7:17       ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 11:45         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 18:29           ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3) H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 23:01             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-01 23:15               ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02  2:37                 ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-04  9:32                   ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-05  6:16                     ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-05  8:28                       ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 15:10                         ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-05 16:06                           ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-02  3:26                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-02 18:53                   ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-02 20:03                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 20:49                       ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-02 20:49                         ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-03  5:47                       ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-04 19:17                         ` Paul Koning
     [not found]                       ` <mailpost.1012680250.7159@news-sj1-1>
2002-02-03 23:29                         ` cgd
2002-02-04  6:07                           ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04  9:46                           ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-04 16:31                             ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-04 16:46                               ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-05  1:28                                 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05  2:58                                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-05  4:42                                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05  4:47                                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-05  5:30                                         ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-05  8:39                                           ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05  8:39                                             ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 11:37                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 12:12                                             ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 12:31                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 12:38                                                 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 12:38                                                   ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 13:28                                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 19:28                                                     ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 19:28                                                       ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 18:59                                                   ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 19:30                                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05 21:54                                       ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 10:32                                         ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-06 20:45                                           ` Why does -g turn off filling the delat slot? H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 21:00                                             ` PATCH: Modify the mips gas behavior for -g -O H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 21:16                                               ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 21:40                                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2002-02-06 21:46                                                   ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 22:00                                                   ` PATCH: Define SUBTARGET_ASM_DEBUGGING_SPEC for Linux/mips H . J . Lu
2002-02-07  8:24                                                     ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 11:37                                         ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3) Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-04 17:44                             ` cgd
2002-02-04  6:46                     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04  7:01         ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04 14:54           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 11:50       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 17:40         ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 21:41           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 22:47             ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 11:06               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-03  2:29               ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-02-03  2:29                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-31 23:33   ` [libc-alpha] " Kaz Kylheku
2002-01-31 23:33     ` Kaz Kylheku

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