From: "H . J . Lu" <hjl@lucon.org>
To: Dominic Sweetman <dom@algor.co.uk>
Cc: cgd@broadcom.com, linux-mips@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 08:31:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020204083115.C13384@lucon.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15454.22661.855423.532827@gladsmuir.algor.co.uk>; from dom@algor.co.uk on Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:46:45AM +0000
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 09:46:45AM +0000, Dominic Sweetman wrote:
>
> cgd@broadcom.com (cgd@broadcom.com) writes:
>
> > Branch-likely instructions probably _do_ buy you something (at
> > least, slightly less code size) on some CPUs, probably even some
> > CPUs which are still being produced.
>
> Here's how branch likely is used to improve performance in a simple
> MIPS CPU, and why it has no effect on code size.
>
> You start off with this:
>
> loopstart: insn 1
> insn 2
> ....
> insn last
> branch to loopstart
> nop
>
> In small loops, the last instruction in the loop might well calculate
> the branch condition, so it can't be moved into the delay slot of the
> loop-closing branch. That puts a no-op into every loop iteration.
> With branch-likely, you can transform the loop to
>
> loopstart: insn 1
> loop2: insn 2
> ....
> insn last
> branch-likely loop2
> insn 1 (copy)
>
> The nop is replaced by a duplicate instruction from the top
> of the loop. Good for performance, no effect on code size.
>
> Builders of clever modern CPUs full of branch prediction hardware,
> multiple instruction issue and instruction re-ordering find the
> coupling of the branch-likely to the following instruction makes their
> CPUs more complicated. That's why MIPS have warned that the
> instructions will be removed from some future version of the MIPS
> instruction set.
I can change glibc not to use branch-likely without using nop. But it
may require one or two instructions outside of the loop. Should I do
it given what we know now?
H.J.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-02-04 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-01-31 20:35 PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips H . J . Lu
2002-01-31 22:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-31 22:41 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 3:35 ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01 4:02 ` [libc-alpha] " Kaz Kylheku
2002-02-01 4:02 ` Kaz Kylheku
2002-02-01 4:59 ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01 7:00 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 11:12 ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01 10:49 ` Andreas Schwab
2002-02-01 11:23 ` Geoff Keating
2002-02-01 7:10 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 7:17 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 11:45 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 18:29 ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3) H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 23:01 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-01 23:15 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 2:37 ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-04 9:32 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-05 6:16 ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-05 8:28 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 15:10 ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-05 16:06 ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-02 3:26 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-02 18:53 ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-02 20:03 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 20:49 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-02 20:49 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-03 5:47 ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-04 19:17 ` Paul Koning
[not found] ` <mailpost.1012680250.7159@news-sj1-1>
2002-02-03 23:29 ` cgd
2002-02-04 6:07 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04 9:46 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-04 16:31 ` H . J . Lu [this message]
2002-02-04 16:46 ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-05 1:28 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05 2:58 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-05 4:42 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05 4:47 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-05 5:30 ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-05 8:39 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 8:39 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 11:37 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 12:12 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 12:31 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 12:38 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 12:38 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 13:28 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 19:28 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 19:28 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 18:59 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 19:30 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05 21:54 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 10:32 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-06 20:45 ` Why does -g turn off filling the delat slot? H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 21:00 ` PATCH: Modify the mips gas behavior for -g -O H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 21:16 ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 21:40 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2002-02-06 21:46 ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 22:00 ` PATCH: Define SUBTARGET_ASM_DEBUGGING_SPEC for Linux/mips H . J . Lu
2002-02-07 8:24 ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 11:37 ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3) Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-04 17:44 ` cgd
2002-02-04 6:46 ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04 7:01 ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04 14:54 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 11:50 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 17:40 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 21:41 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 22:47 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 11:06 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-03 2:29 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-02-03 2:29 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-31 23:33 ` [libc-alpha] " Kaz Kylheku
2002-01-31 23:33 ` Kaz Kylheku
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