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From: Ralf Baechle <ralf@oss.sgi.com>
To: cgd@broadcom.com
Cc: hjl@lucon.org, Justin Carlson <justinca@ri.cmu.edu>,
	Daniel Jacobowitz <dan@debian.org>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@ds2.pg.gda.pl>,
	Hiroyuki Machida <machida@sm.sony.co.jp>,
	libc-alpha@sources.redhat.com, linux-mips@oss.sgi.com,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 07:07:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020204070741.A13799@dea.linux-mips.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yov5ofj65elj.fsf@broadcom.com>; from cgd@broadcom.com on Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 03:29:28PM -0800

On Sun, Feb 03, 2002 at 03:29:28PM -0800, cgd@broadcom.com wrote:

> At Sat, 2 Feb 2002 20:04:10 +0000 (UTC), "H . J . Lu" wrote:
> > Does everyone agree with this? If yes, I can make a patch not to use
> > branch likely. But on the other hand, "gcc -mips2" will generate code
> > using branch likely. If branch likely doesn't buy you anything, 
> > shouldn't we change gcc not to generate branch likely instructions?
> 
> Branch-likely instructions probably _do_ buy you something (at least,
> slightly less code size) on some CPUs, probably even some CPUs which
> are still being produced.

I benchmarked the performance improvment on R4000/R4400 by using branch
likely instructions to be in the range of 1-2% in a piece of pretty
"branchy" code, so we don't want to disable branch likely right entirely.
Newer CPU types, in particular those featuring branch prediction tend to
perform differently.

I suggest to enable branch likely in gcc for those > MIPS II CPUs where
they're known to improve performance or when optimizing for code size.
Unfortunately gcc's knowledge about such architecture details is rather
limited.

  Ralf

  reply	other threads:[~2002-02-04 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-01-31 20:35 PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips H . J . Lu
2002-01-31 22:17 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-01-31 22:41   ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01  3:35     ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01  4:02       ` [libc-alpha] " Kaz Kylheku
2002-02-01  4:02         ` Kaz Kylheku
2002-02-01  4:59         ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01  7:00           ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 11:12             ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-01 10:49           ` Andreas Schwab
2002-02-01 11:23             ` Geoff Keating
2002-02-01  7:10         ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01  7:17       ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 11:45         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 18:29           ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3) H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 23:01             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-01 23:15               ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02  2:37                 ` Hiroyuki Machida
2002-02-04  9:32                   ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-05  6:16                     ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-05  8:28                       ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 15:10                         ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-05 16:06                           ` Jay Carlson
2002-02-02  3:26                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-02 18:53                   ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-02 20:03                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 20:49                       ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-02 20:49                         ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-03  5:47                       ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-04 19:17                         ` Paul Koning
     [not found]                       ` <mailpost.1012680250.7159@news-sj1-1>
2002-02-03 23:29                         ` cgd
2002-02-04  6:07                           ` Ralf Baechle [this message]
2002-02-04  9:46                           ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-04 16:31                             ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-04 16:46                               ` Dominic Sweetman
2002-02-05  1:28                                 ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05  2:58                                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-05  4:42                                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05  4:47                                       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2002-02-05  5:30                                         ` Justin Carlson
2002-02-05  8:39                                           ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05  8:39                                             ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 11:37                                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 12:12                                             ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 12:31                                               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 12:38                                                 ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 12:38                                                   ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 13:28                                                   ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-05 19:28                                                     ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 19:28                                                       ` Hartvig Ekner
2002-02-05 18:59                                                   ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-05 19:30                                     ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-05 21:54                                       ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 10:32                                         ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-06 20:45                                           ` Why does -g turn off filling the delat slot? H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 21:00                                             ` PATCH: Modify the mips gas behavior for -g -O H . J . Lu
2002-02-06 21:16                                               ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 21:40                                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2002-02-06 21:46                                                   ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 22:00                                                   ` PATCH: Define SUBTARGET_ASM_DEBUGGING_SPEC for Linux/mips H . J . Lu
2002-02-07  8:24                                                     ` Eric Christopher
2002-02-06 11:37                                         ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips (take 3) Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-04 17:44                             ` cgd
2002-02-04  6:46                     ` Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04  7:01         ` PATCH: Fix ll/sc for mips Ralf Baechle
2002-02-04 14:54           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 11:50       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 17:40         ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-01 21:41           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-01 22:47             ` H . J . Lu
2002-02-02 11:06               ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2002-02-03  2:29               ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-02-03  2:29                 ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-01-31 23:33   ` [libc-alpha] " Kaz Kylheku
2002-01-31 23:33     ` Kaz Kylheku

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