From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Thomas Richter <tmricht@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, agordeev@linux.ibm.com,
gor@linux.ibm.com, sumanthk@linux.ibm.com, hca@linux.ibm.com,
japo@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] perf symbol: Remove psw_idle() from list of idle symbols
Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2026 11:34:35 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aahC-zp56irr5e2k@x1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fUjyOUi9J6WfXf0HkbiD6Y=vAfT2gSMo0e-L7LOOtPW=A@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Mar 02, 2026 at 11:44:19AM -0800, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 10:43 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
> <acme@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2026 at 01:46:21PM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 12:38:50PM +0100, Thomas Richter wrote:
> > > > Commit fa2ae4a377c0 ("s390/idle: Rewrite psw_idle() in C")
> > > >
> > > > removes symbols psw_idle() and psw_idle_exit() from the linux
> > > > kernel for s390. Remove them in perf tool's list of idle
> > > > functions. They can not be detected anymore.
> > >
> > > But I think old kernels may still run somewhere. It seems the above
> > > commit was merged to v6.10. Maybe we should wait some more time before
> > > removing it in the tool.
> >
> > Agreed, using a new perf tool, say built from the tarballs made
> > available at:
> >
> > https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/tools/perf/v7.0.0/perf-7.0.0-rc1.tar.xz
> >
> > (I will not make a rc2 available since there are no changes to the
> > tools/perf codebase in this rc).
> >
> > On older kernels should still ignore those functions.
> >
> > A suggestion for work in this area instead is to get those samples into
> > a special bucket, the "idle" one, and show it at some place in the
> > screen.
>
> Would it also be sensible to pass the perf_env:
> https://web.git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/perf/perf-tools-next.git/tree/tools/perf/util/env.h?h=perf-tools-next#n74
> into symbol__is_idle? The contents of the perf_env are shown by `perf
> report --header`:
> ```
> # ========
> # captured on : Mon Mar 2 11:34:47 2026
> # header version : 1
> # data offset : 904
> # data size : 4268216
> # feat offset : 4269120
> # hostname : google.com
> # os release : 6.17.13-1rodete1-amd64
> # perf version : 7.0.rc1.g982b63f6380b
> # arch : x86_64
> # nrcpus online : 28
> # nrcpus avail : 28
> # cpudesc : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-14700
> # cpuid : GenuineIntel,6,183,1
> ...
> # e_machine : 62
> # e_flags : 0
> ...
> ```
> The kernel version is in the release and the e_machine/arch captures
> the CPU type.
Yeah, I think it is a good improvement, I think you mean that we should
have per-arch idle symbol lists?
- Arnaldo
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Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-19 11:38 [PATCH v2] perf symbol: Remove psw_idle() from list of idle symbols Thomas Richter
2026-02-19 11:55 ` Jan Polensky
2026-02-23 21:46 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-02-23 23:14 ` Arnaldo Melo
2026-03-02 18:43 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2026-03-02 19:44 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-04 14:34 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2026-03-02 23:43 ` [PATCH v1] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-03-24 17:14 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-25 6:58 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-25 15:58 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-25 16:18 ` [PATCH v2] " Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 7:20 ` Honglei Wang
2026-03-26 15:11 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-03-26 17:45 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-03-27 6:56 ` Honglei Wang
2026-03-27 4:50 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-03-27 4:50 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 5:05 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-04-06 15:36 ` Ian Rogers
2026-03-27 4:50 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 5:10 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-04-06 16:11 ` Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-04-06 17:09 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 0/3] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:37 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-01 18:20 ` [PATCH v7 0/4] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:20 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 18:56 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-01 18:20 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 19:20 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-01 18:20 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] perf symbol: Add setters for bitfields sharing a byte to avoid concurrent update issues Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 19:42 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-01 18:20 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use a global lock for updates Ian Rogers
2026-05-01 20:13 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 00/17] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 01/17] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:56 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 02/17] perf tests topology: Switch env->arch use to env->e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 03/17] perf capstone: Determine architecture from e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:58 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 04/17] perf print_insn: Use e_machine for fallback IP length check Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:55 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 05/17] perf machine: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 06/17] perf sample-raw: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 07/17] perf sort: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 08/17] perf symbol: Avoid use of machine__is Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 09/17] perf arch common: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 10/17] perf header: In print_pmu_caps use perf_env e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 11/17] perf c2c: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:44 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 12/17] perf lock-contention: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 13/17] perf env: Refactor perf_env__arch_strerrno Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 14/17] perf env: Remove unused perf_env__raw_arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 15/17] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:53 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 16/17] perf symbol: Add setters for bitfields sharing a byte to avoid concurrent update issues Ian Rogers
2026-05-02 7:55 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-02 6:59 ` [PATCH v8 17/17] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use a global lock for updates Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 00/18] perf symbol/env: ELF machine clean up and lazy idle computation Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 01/18] perf env: Add perf_env__e_machine helper and use in perf_env__arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:52 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-04 1:35 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 02/18] perf tests topology: Switch env->arch use to env->e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 03/18] perf env, dso, thread: Add _endian variants for e_machine helpers Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:39 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 04/18] perf capstone: Determine architecture from e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:50 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 05/18] perf print_insn: Use e_machine for fallback IP length check Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 06/18] perf symbol: Avoid use of machine__is Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:51 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 07/18] perf machine: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 1:00 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 08/18] perf sample-raw: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 09/18] perf sort: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 10/18] perf arch common: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:38 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 11/18] perf header: In print_pmu_caps use perf_env e_machine Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 12/18] perf c2c: Use perf_env e_machine rather than arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 13/18] perf lock-contention: " Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 14/18] perf env: Refactor perf_env__arch_strerrno Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 1:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 15/18] perf env: Remove unused perf_env__raw_arch Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 16/18] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 1:00 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 17/18] perf symbol: Add setters for bitfields sharing a byte to avoid concurrent update issues Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 0:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-03 0:22 ` [PATCH v9 18/18] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle Ian Rogers
2026-05-03 1:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-04-09 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] perf env: Add helper to lazily compute the os_release Ian Rogers
2026-04-09 23:50 ` sashiko-bot
2026-04-09 23:06 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] perf symbol: Lazily compute idle and use the perf_env Ian Rogers
2026-04-10 0:11 ` sashiko-bot
2026-03-27 6:00 ` [PATCH v2] perf tests task-analyzer: Write test files to tmpdir Ian Rogers
2026-03-31 7:22 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-03-31 17:58 ` Ian Rogers
2026-04-01 3:41 ` Namhyung Kim
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