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From: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
To: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
Cc: linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 paul.walmsley@sifive.com, palmer@dabbelt.com,
	jesse@rivosinc.com,  Anup Patel <apatel@ventanamicro.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] riscv: Prepare for unaligned access type table lookups
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 10:43:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250210-51cedc94f4cba8c96516adc5@orel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z6ax7B45OsGerjfA@ghost>

On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 05:22:52PM -0800, Charlie Jenkins wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 07, 2025 at 05:19:47PM +0100, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > Probing unaligned accesses on boot is time consuming. Provide a
> > function which will be used to look up the access type in a table
> > by id registers. Vendors which provide table entries can then skip
> > the probing.
> 
> The access checker in my experience is only time consuming on slow
> hardware. Hardware that supports fast unaligned accesses isn't really
> impacted by this?

That's true, but...

> Avoiding a list of hardware that has slow/fast
> unaligned accesses in the kernel was the main reason for dynamically
> checking.

...I'm not sure why we should try to avoid determining hardware support
by its description when a description can be provided.

> We did introduce the config option to compile the kernel with
> assumed slow/fast accesses, which of course has the downside of
> recompiling the kernel and I assume that you already considered that.

yup

> 
> Instead of having a table in the kernel, something that would be more
> platform agnostic would be to have an extension that signals this
> information. That seems like it would accomplish the same goal and
> leverage the existing infrastructure in the kernel, albeit with the need
> to make a new extension.

Yes, I agree that another profile "named feature" may be the best
approach. I'll consider proposing one, but [1] implies there may be
some resistance to creating something like that.

[1] https://github.com/riscv/riscv-isa-manual/issues/1611

Thanks,
drew

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-10  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-07 16:19 [PATCH 0/9] riscv: Unaligned access speed probing fixes and skipping Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 1/9] riscv: Annotate unaligned access init functions Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 12:59   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 2/9] riscv: Fix riscv_online_cpu_vec Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:47   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-07 17:08     ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 17:43       ` Clément Léger
2025-02-07 18:08         ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 13:02   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 3/9] riscv: Fix check_unaligned_access_all_cpus Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 13:12   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 4/9] riscv: Change check_unaligned_access_speed_all_cpus to void Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:42   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-13 13:15   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 5/9] riscv: Fix set up of cpu hotplug callbacks Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:44   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-13 13:25   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-13 13:33   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 6/9] riscv: Fix set up of vector cpu hotplug callback Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 17:36   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-07 18:15     ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-13 13:28   ` Alexandre Ghiti
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 7/9] riscv: Prepare for unaligned access type table lookups Andrew Jones
2025-02-08  1:22   ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10  9:43     ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2025-02-10 17:10       ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 10:16     ` Anup Patel
2025-02-10 11:07       ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 14:06         ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-10 14:20           ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 17:20             ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 20:42               ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 20:53                 ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 20:57                   ` Clément Léger
2025-02-10 21:13                     ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-11  4:26                     ` Anup Patel
2025-02-11  8:37                       ` Clément Léger
2025-02-11 18:09                       ` Palmer Dabbelt
2025-02-10 17:19       ` Charlie Jenkins
2025-02-10 20:37         ` Clément Léger
2025-02-11  9:04           ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 8/9] riscv: Implement check_unaligned_access_table Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 16:19 ` [PATCH 9/9] riscv: Add Ventana unaligned access table entries Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 18:10 ` [PATCH 8/9] riscv: Implement check_unaligned_access_table Andrew Jones
2025-02-07 18:19   ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-08  7:59 ` [PATCH 0/9] riscv: Unaligned access speed probing fixes and skipping Anup Patel
2025-02-10  9:26   ` Andrew Jones
2025-02-10  9:58     ` Anup Patel
2025-02-10 11:01       ` Andrew Jones

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