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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
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	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2026 11:41:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pl3vb5bm.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeNeNjfO7i128TIP@e129823.arm.com>

On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:34:30 +0100,
Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com> wrote:
> 
> > > @@ -2035,6 +2037,16 @@ static int __init ffa_init(void)
> > >  	u32 buf_sz;
> > >  	size_t rxtx_bufsz = SZ_4K;
> > >
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * When pKVM is enabled, the FF-A driver must be initialized
> > > +	 * after pKVM initialization. Otherwise, pKVM cannot negotiate
> > > +	 * the FF-A version or obtain RX/TX buffer information,
> > > +	 * which leads to failures in FF-A calls.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM) && is_protected_kvm_enabled() &&
> > > +	    !is_kvm_arm_initialised())
> > > +		return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> > > +
> >
> > That's still fundamentally wrong: pkvm is not ready until
> > finalize_pkvm() has finished, and that's not indicated by
> > is_kvm_arm_initialised().
> 
> Thanks. I miss the TSC bit set in here.

That's the least of the problems. None of the infrastructure is in
place at this stage...

> IMHO, I'd like to make an new state check function --
> is_pkvm_arm_initialised() so that ff-a driver to know whether
> pkvm is initialised.

Doesn't sound great, TBH.

> or any other suggestion?

Instead of adding more esoteric predicates, I'd rather you build on an
existing infrastructure. You have a dependency on KVM, use something
that is designed to enforce dependencies. Device links spring to mind
as something designed for that.

Can you look into enabling this for KVM? If that's possible, then it
should be easy enough to delay the actual KVM registration after pKVM
is finalised.

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Jazz isn't dead. It just smells funny.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-19 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-17 17:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] fix FF-A call failed with pKVM when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] security: ima: move ima_init into late_initcall_sync Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:32   ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: revert defered_probed when tpm_crb_ffa is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] firmware: arm_ffa: revert ffa_init() initcall level to device_initcall Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-18  9:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-18 10:34     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-19 10:41       ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2026-04-19 11:12         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20  8:55           ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20  9:25             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:42               ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20 10:56                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 15:47                   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 17:04                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-21  6:57         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 12:32   ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 12:46     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-20 14:20       ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 15:04         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 16:50         ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 13:00     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 14:05       ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 14:47         ` Yeoreum Yun

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