From: Sebastian Ene <sebastianene@google.com>
To: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
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peterhuewe@gmx.de, jarkko@kernel.org, jgg@ziepe.ca,
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joey.gouly@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 14:05:24 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeYypF4lv6LMH2ch@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeYjiaPtAl7SMVkL@e129823.arm.com>
On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
Hi,
>
> Hi Sebastian,
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 06:57:59PM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> >
> > Hello Yeoreum,
> >
> >
> > > When pKVM is enabled, the FF-A driver must be initialized after pKVM.
> > > Otherwise, pKVM cannot negotiate the FF-A version or
> > > obtain RX/TX buffer information, leading to failures in FF-A calls.
> >
> > At the moment this already happens after you move back ffa_init() to
> > device_initcall().
>
> How? the kvm_arm_init() is device_initcall() if both built as built-in.
>
> >
> > >
> > > During FF-A driver initialization, check whether pKVM has been initialized.
> > > If not, defer probing of the FF-A driver.
> > >
> >
> > I don't think you need to add this dependency. pKVM is
> > installed through KVM's module_init() which ends up calling hyp_ffa_init() to
> > do the proxy initialization. The ARM-FFA driver comes after it (since
> > pKVM is arch specific code). We don't have to call finalize_pkvm(..) to
> > be able to handle smc(FF-A) calls in the hyp-proxy.
> >
>
> As Marc said, the before finalised_pkvm(), smc wouldn't be trapped
> to pKVM. IOW, in case when both built as built-in,
They are, I tested before replying to this thread. The HCR_EL2 is
0x480080000 so HCR_EL2 TSC bit is set so SMC/FF-A and trapping is enabled.
In __pkvm_prot_finalize it sets the HCR_VM bit which enables stage-2 and
then write the HCR_EL2 from params->hcr_el2. However I wasn't sure that
this is seen as a 'hack' and not expected to work.
> if ffa_init() is called before finalised_pkvm(),
> it couldn't proxy the FFA_VERSION, FFA_RXTX_MAP and FFA_PARTITION_INFO_GET
> called by ffa_init().
>
> How can you gurantee hyp_ffa_init() which is called by kvm_arm_init()
> comes first even kvm_arm_init() and ffa_init() are on device_initcall?
>
While they are both on device_initcall, the only difference is that
kvm_arm_init is arch code which appears before the driver/ code in the
linker. That's why Marc said it is not a solid construct to rely on
this.
Thanks,
Sebastian
> [...]
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Yeoreum Yun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-20 14:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-17 17:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] fix FF-A call failed with pKVM when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] security: ima: move ima_init into late_initcall_sync Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:32 ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: revert defered_probed when tpm_crb_ffa is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] firmware: arm_ffa: revert ffa_init() initcall level to device_initcall Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-18 9:24 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-18 10:34 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-19 10:41 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-19 11:12 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 8:55 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20 9:25 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:42 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20 10:56 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 15:47 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 17:04 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-21 6:57 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 12:32 ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 12:46 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-20 14:20 ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 15:04 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 16:50 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 13:00 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 14:05 ` Sebastian Ene [this message]
2026-04-20 14:47 ` Yeoreum Yun
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