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From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: Sebastian Ene <sebastianene@google.com>
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
	paul@paul-moore.com, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com,
	zohar@linux.ibm.com, roberto.sassu@huawei.com,
	dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, eric.snowberg@oracle.com,
	peterhuewe@gmx.de, jarkko@kernel.org, jgg@ziepe.ca,
	sudeep.holla@kernel.org, maz@kernel.org, oupton@kernel.org,
	joey.gouly@arm.com, suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 15:47:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeY8fNhtuVzL2X9a@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeYypF4lv6LMH2ch@google.com>

Hi Sebastian,

> On Mon, Apr 20, 2026 at 02:00:57PM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> >
> > Hi Sebastian,
> > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2026 at 06:57:59PM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Yeoreum,
> > >
> > >
> > > > When pKVM is enabled, the FF-A driver must be initialized after pKVM.
> > > > Otherwise, pKVM cannot negotiate the FF-A version or
> > > > obtain RX/TX buffer information, leading to failures in FF-A calls.
> > >
> > > At the moment this already happens after you move back ffa_init() to
> > > device_initcall().
> >
> > How? the kvm_arm_init() is device_initcall() if both built as built-in.
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > During FF-A driver initialization, check whether pKVM has been initialized.
> > > > If not, defer probing of the FF-A driver.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't think you need to add this dependency. pKVM is
> > > installed through KVM's module_init() which ends up calling hyp_ffa_init() to
> > > do the proxy initialization. The ARM-FFA driver comes after it (since
> > > pKVM is arch specific code). We don't have to call finalize_pkvm(..) to
> > > be able to handle smc(FF-A) calls in the hyp-proxy.
> > >
> >
> > As Marc said, the before finalised_pkvm(), smc wouldn't be trapped
> > to pKVM. IOW, in case when both built as built-in,
>
> They are, I tested before replying to this thread. The HCR_EL2 is
> 0x480080000 so HCR_EL2 TSC bit is set so SMC/FF-A and trapping is enabled.

Oh. I've missed cpu_init_hyp_mode() sets up HCR_EL2. So you're right.
Thanks to correct me ;)

>
> In __pkvm_prot_finalize it sets the HCR_VM bit which enables stage-2 and
> then write the HCR_EL2 from params->hcr_el2. However I wasn't sure that
> this is seen as a 'hack' and not expected to work.
>
> > if ffa_init() is called before finalised_pkvm(),
> > it couldn't proxy the FFA_VERSION, FFA_RXTX_MAP and FFA_PARTITION_INFO_GET
> > called by ffa_init().
> >
> > How can you gurantee hyp_ffa_init() which is called by kvm_arm_init()
> > comes first even kvm_arm_init() and ffa_init() are on device_initcall?
> >
>
> While they are both on device_initcall, the only difference is that
> kvm_arm_init is arch code which appears before the driver/ code in the
> linker. That's why Marc said it is not a solid construct to rely on
> this.

Then I think the origin one -- just check kvm_arm_initialised
is enough to check in ffa_driver. since I misunderstood TSC bit
is setup after finalised_pkvm().

or Am I missing something?

Thanks.

--
Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun

      reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-17 17:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] fix FF-A call failed with pKVM when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] security: ima: move ima_init into late_initcall_sync Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:32   ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: revert defered_probed when tpm_crb_ffa is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] firmware: arm_ffa: revert ffa_init() initcall level to device_initcall Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-18  9:24   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-18 10:34     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-19 10:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-19 11:12         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20  8:55           ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20  9:25             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:42               ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20 10:56                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 15:47                   ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 17:04                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 12:32   ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 12:46     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-20 14:20       ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 15:04         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 16:50         ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 13:00     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 14:05       ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 14:47         ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]

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