From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
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dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, eric.snowberg@oracle.com,
peterhuewe@gmx.de, jarkko@kernel.org, jgg@ziepe.ca,
sudeep.holla@kernel.org, oupton@kernel.org, joey.gouly@arm.com,
suzuki.poulose@arm.com, yuzenghui@huawei.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:55:09 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeXp7WSqpXNytNPG@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeS4rAeVQ0yJIPYw@e129823.arm.com>
On Sun, Apr 19, 2026 at 12:12:44PM +0100, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> Hi Marc,
>
> > On Sat, 18 Apr 2026 11:34:30 +0100,
> > Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > @@ -2035,6 +2037,16 @@ static int __init ffa_init(void)
> > > > > u32 buf_sz;
> > > > > size_t rxtx_bufsz = SZ_4K;
> > > > >
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * When pKVM is enabled, the FF-A driver must be initialized
> > > > > + * after pKVM initialization. Otherwise, pKVM cannot negotiate
> > > > > + * the FF-A version or obtain RX/TX buffer information,
> > > > > + * which leads to failures in FF-A calls.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM) && is_protected_kvm_enabled() &&
> > > > > + !is_kvm_arm_initialised())
> > > > > + return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > That's still fundamentally wrong: pkvm is not ready until
> > > > finalize_pkvm() has finished, and that's not indicated by
> > > > is_kvm_arm_initialised().
> > >
> > > Thanks. I miss the TSC bit set in here.
> >
> > That's the least of the problems. None of the infrastructure is in
> > place at this stage...
> >
> > > IMHO, I'd like to make an new state check function --
> > > is_pkvm_arm_initialised() so that ff-a driver to know whether
> > > pkvm is initialised.
> >
> > Doesn't sound great, TBH.
> >
> > > or any other suggestion?
> >
> > Instead of adding more esoteric predicates, I'd rather you build on an
> > existing infrastructure. You have a dependency on KVM, use something
> > that is designed to enforce dependencies. Device links spring to mind
> > as something designed for that.
> >
> > Can you look into enabling this for KVM? If that's possible, then it
> > should be easy enough to delay the actual KVM registration after pKVM
> > is finalised.
>
> or what about some event notifier? Just like:
This seems a bit over-engineered to me. Why don't you just split the
FF-A initialisation into two steps: an early part which does the version
negotiation and then a later part which can fit in with whatever
dependencies you have on the TPM?
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-20 8:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-17 17:57 [RFC PATCH 0/4] fix FF-A call failed with pKVM when ff-a driver is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] security: ima: move ima_init into late_initcall_sync Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:32 ` Jonathan McDowell
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] tpm: tpm_crb_ffa: revert defered_probed when tpm_crb_ffa is built-in Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] firmware: arm_ffa: revert ffa_init() initcall level to device_initcall Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-17 17:57 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] firmware: arm_ffa: check pkvm initailised when initailise ffa driver Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-18 9:24 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-18 10:34 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-19 10:41 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-19 11:12 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 8:55 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-04-20 9:25 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 10:42 ` Will Deacon
2026-04-20 10:56 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 15:47 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 17:04 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 12:32 ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 12:46 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-04-20 14:20 ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 15:04 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 16:50 ` Sudeep Holla
2026-04-20 13:00 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-04-20 14:05 ` Sebastian Ene
2026-04-20 14:47 ` Yeoreum Yun
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