From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: ntl@pobox.com, anton@au1.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
michael@ellerman.id.au, linuxppc64-dev@ozlabs.org,
serue@us.ibm.com, paulus@au1.ibm.com, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.15-mm4 failure on power5
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:24:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060118002459.3bc8f75a.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060118080828.GA2324@elte.hu>
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
>
> * Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org> wrote:
>
> > > Yes, which would be why this code never triggered a warning when
> > > cpucontrol was a semaphore.
> >
> > Yup. Perhaps a sane fix which preserves the unpleasant semantics is
> > to do irqsave in the mutex debug code.
>
> i'd much rather remove that ugly hack from __might_sleep(). How many
> other bugs does it hide?
Gee, it was 2.6.0-test9. I don't remember, but I do recall the problems
were really really nasty, and what's the point? We're only running one
thread on one CPU at that time, so none of these things _will_ sleep.
> Does it hide bugs that dont normally trigger
> during bootups on real hardware, but which could trigger on e.g. UML or
> on Xen? I really think such ugly workarounds are not justified, if other
> arches can get their act together. Would you make such an exception for
> other arches too, like ARM?
Don't care really, as long as a) the problems don't hit -mm or mainline and
b) someone else fixes them. Yes, it'd be nice to fix these things, and we
might even find real bugs. Perhaps things are better now, but I suspect
it's a can of worms.
> an irqsave in the mutex debug code will uglify the kernel/mutex.c code -
> i'd have to add extra "unsigned long flags" lines. [It will also slow
> down the debug code a bit - an extra PUSHF has to be done.]
Small cost, really...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-18 8:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-16 6:35 2.6.15-mm4 failure on power5 Serge E. Hallyn
2006-01-16 7:05 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-16 13:00 ` Michael Ellerman
2006-01-16 15:37 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-01-16 21:52 ` Dave C Boutcher
2006-01-17 1:09 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-17 8:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-17 8:47 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-17 16:52 ` Dave C Boutcher
2006-01-17 16:55 ` Dave C Boutcher
2006-01-18 6:40 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-01-18 7:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 7:53 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-01-18 8:08 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-01-17 12:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-01-17 13:32 ` Michael Ellerman
2006-01-17 14:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 0:19 ` Michael Ellerman
2006-01-18 3:32 ` Dave C Boutcher
2006-01-18 6:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 6:53 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-18 7:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 7:28 ` Nathan Lynch
2006-01-18 7:37 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-18 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 8:24 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-01-18 9:02 ` [patch] work around ppc64 bootup bug by making mutex-debugging save/restore irqs Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 9:18 ` [patch] turn on might_sleep() in early bootup code too Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 10:35 ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-18 10:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 11:15 ` [patch] make bug messages more consistent Ingo Molnar
2006-01-19 4:39 ` [patch] turn on might_sleep() in early bootup code too Zwane Mwaikambo
2006-01-18 10:46 ` Nick Piggin
2006-01-18 11:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 12:53 ` [patch] add trylock_kernel() Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 7:38 ` 2.6.15-mm4 failure on power5 Arjan van de Ven
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