From: "Ph. Marek" <philipp.marek@bmlv.gv.at>
To: Al Viro <viro@ftp.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] file as directory
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:23:54 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200705231523.55306.philipp.marek@bmlv.gv.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070523113925.GT4095@ftp.linux.org.uk>
On Mittwoch, 23. Mai 2007, Al Viro wrote:
> Then I do not understand what this mechanism could be used for, other
> than an odd way to twist POSIX behaviour and see how much of the userland
> would survive that.
I have some similar considerations about how userspace should deal with that.
The behaviour of simply "cd file/" are not that robust, I fear ...
> Certainly not useful for your "look into tarball
> as a tree", unless you seriously want to scan the entire damn fs for
> tarballs at mount time and set up a superblock for each. And for per-file
> extended attributes/forks/whatever-you-call-that-abomination it also
> obviously doesn't help, since you lose them for directories.
Well, *use cases* I can see. I'd like to use that - for loop mounting,
archives, possibly using symlinks to remote filesystems "symlink1 =>
ssh:user@ip" (although that's possible with FUSE anyway - but would be
possibly within a .zip, too), ...
But I'm not sure how to do the presentation to userspace *right*.
How about some special node in eg. /proc (or a new filesystem)?
Eg.
/fileAsDir/etc/passwd/owner ...
would work for all *files*. For directories we do not know whether we're still
climbing the hierarchy or would like to see meta-data.
Some way like a ".this" entry is not the Right Way IMO ...
Well, I cannot imagine a real good way to tell where I'd like to stop
following the "normal" filesystem and go into the "generated" hierarchy ...
/fileAsDir/level-3/usr/local/bin/owner
is not nice.
Regards,
Phil
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-23 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-22 18:48 [RFC PATCH] file as directory Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-22 22:10 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 6:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 7:03 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 7:19 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 7:36 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 8:05 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 8:29 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 9:03 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 9:58 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 10:14 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 9:16 ` Jan Blunck
2007-05-23 9:28 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 12:34 ` Trond Myklebust
2007-05-23 12:40 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 9:21 ` Jan Blunck
2007-05-23 9:35 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-24 12:07 ` Pavel Machek
2007-05-28 14:43 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-22 23:26 ` Shaya Potter
2007-05-23 6:39 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 9:51 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 10:09 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 10:24 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 10:24 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 10:40 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 11:39 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 12:16 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 13:01 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 13:51 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 14:32 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 15:06 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 15:25 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 15:37 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 15:55 ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-05-23 13:23 ` Ph. Marek [this message]
2007-05-23 13:54 ` Al Viro
2007-05-23 12:01 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-23 13:20 ` Jaroslav Sykora
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