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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Boris Burkov <boris@bur.io>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>, Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2026 17:18:03 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260707141803.GA254690@killaraus.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ebc1f034-7297-459e-975d-5c143567392f@kernel.org>

On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 03:28:49PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 7/7/26 14:40, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 11:49:31AM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> >> On 7/7/26 11:20, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think the silence suggests nobody :)
> >>>
> >>> What we could do is send a patch to simply add a section on adding a comment
> >>> explaining _what_ used an LLM and strongly suggesting it would be helpful to do
> >>> so.
> >>>
> >>> That should hopefully be uncontroversial, then later (or alongside that?) we
> >>> could submit an RFC for making the language move to 'you MUST do this', as that
> >>> will probably be the more controversial bit.
> >>
> >> Maybe we should just spell out about which scenario we care about where we really
> >> expect the disclosure.
> >>
> >> Sure, it might be more controversial and we could have that in a separate patch.
> >>
> >> I was thinking of the following end result:
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> >> index 899f4459c52d2..4c2ab4dfc6da7 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> >> +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> >> @@ -40,20 +40,37 @@ Attribution
> >>  ===========
> >>  
> >>  When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution
> >> -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process.
> >> -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format::
> >> +helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. Further,
> >> +for reviewers and maintainers it is also crucially important to know how
> >> +AI tools were used.
> >>  
> >> -  Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2]
> >> +Contributions that used AI to generate significant portions of code,
> >> +comments, or patch descriptions must include an Assisted-by tag in the
> >> +following format::
> >>  
> >> -Where (preferred):
> >> +  Assisted-by: LLM # brief description of usage
> >> +
> >> +Or alternatively::
> >> +
> >> +  Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION # brief description of usage
> > 
> > I would like to drop this one. As I understand, several people objected
> > to including the product name in the git history as it is just free
> > adverising, and nobody objected to dropping it.
> 
> Yeah. I mean, we could go the following direction (dropping the models and
> encouraging also a description of usage for other tools), but not sure how
> much pushback we will get:

I haven't heard anyone involved in this mail thread objecting to the
concepts you translated into sentences below, so I think it's worth a
try. Of course there may be objections from people who are not aware of
this very conversation.

> diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> index 899f4459c52d2..a085a15d59990 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> @@ -40,20 +40,26 @@ Attribution
>  ===========
>  
>  When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution
> -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process.
> -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format::
> +helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process. Further,
> +for reviewers and maintainers it is also crucially important to know how
> +AI tools were used.
>  
> -  Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2]
> +Contributions that used AI to generate significant portions of code,
> +comments, or patch descriptions must include an Assisted-by tag in the
> +following format::
>  
> -Where:
> +  Assisted-by: LLM # mandatory brief description of usage
>  
> -* ``AGENT_NAME`` is the name of the AI tool or framework
> -* ``MODEL_VERSION`` is the specific model version used
> -* ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are optional specialized analysis tools used
> -  (e.g., coccinelle, sparse, smatch, clang-tidy)
> +Similarly, usage of other specialized analysis tools should be
> +indicated through an Assisted-by tag in the following format::
>  
> -Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not be listed.
> +  Assisted-by: [TOOL1] [TOOL2] # optional brief description of usage
>  
> -Example::
> +Examples for ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are coccinelle, sparse, smatch, and
> +clang-tidy. Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not
> +be listed.
>  
> -  Assisted-by: Claude:claude-3-opus coccinelle sparse
> +Examples::
> +
> +  Assisted-by: LLM # translate patch description
> +  Assisted-by: coccinelle # batch conversion with small manual fixups
> davhil01@e142025:~/git/linux$ 

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-07 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02 14:32 [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 14:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:02   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 15:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:28   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:44       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:07 ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 15:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-02 15:20     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 18:46     ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-03  2:57       ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:50         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-03 16:12         ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-02 15:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:33   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 15:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:57   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:13     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 16:19       ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 16:32         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03  6:37           ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03  7:30               ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:33                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 11:42                 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:53                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 12:04                   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-06  8:44                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-02 16:48         ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:50           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 21:17             ` Boris Burkov
2026-07-02 23:17               ` SJ Park
2026-07-03  7:05               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 13:12                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-03 16:32                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 18:22                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07  9:20                       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07  9:49                         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07  9:55                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07 13:29                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 10:01                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2026-07-07 13:31                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 12:40                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-07 13:28                             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-07 14:18                               ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2026-07-07 14:59                                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-07 10:15                         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-07 10:20                           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-03 18:26                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 23:05             ` SJ Park
2026-07-02 16:11 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-02 16:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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