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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	 Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>,
	 Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	 Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 16:20:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akaBMfxROmnmp1Ba@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cxx5l900.fsf@trenco.lwn.net>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 09:13:51AM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 10:32:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> >> We've had this requirement in place in the Documentation for several
> >> months, but it's becoming clear that the signal to noise ratio from this
> >> is quite low.
> >>
> >> 1/ It's not universally followed. While many people do try to attribute
> >> the LLMs in good faith, not everyone does for various reasons.
> >
> > Then let's move to get people to follow it.
>
> FWIW, in my experience, simple ignorance of the rules is one of the
> biggest reasons why so many people fail to follow them.  When I've asked
> docs contributors about the source of their work, they tend to come
> clean, apologize, and add the tags going forward.

I also feel that repeatedly establishing boundaries like this (in as civil
and reasonable way as possible) can help establish the 'done thing'.

We will probably still experience a great deal of unattributed patches, and
I think over time we'll have to figure out a way to deal with that, but
there's certainly a cohort who can be reached, and it's beneficial to do
so.

It also makes it easier to enforce with those who don't play nice - 'here
are the rules, look over here, and look at these patches' etc.

With no rules at all it becomes far harder to enforce anything.

>
> jon

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-02 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02 14:32 [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 14:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:02   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 15:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:28   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:44       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:07 ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 15:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-02 15:20     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-07-02 18:46     ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-03  2:57       ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:50         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-03 16:12         ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-02 15:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:33   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 15:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:57   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:13     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 16:19       ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 16:32         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03  6:37           ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03  7:30               ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:33                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 11:42                 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:53                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 12:04                   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 16:48         ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:50           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 21:17             ` Boris Burkov
2026-07-02 23:17               ` SJ Park
2026-07-03  7:05               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 13:12                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-03 16:32                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 18:22                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 18:26                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 23:05             ` SJ Park
2026-07-02 16:11 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-02 16:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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