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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	 Justin Stitt <justinstitt@google.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>,
	 Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Jori Koolstra <jkoolstra@xs4all.nl>,
	 Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>,
	Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>,
	 Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	David Disseldorp <ddiss@suse.de>,
	 Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	 Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	 Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"Christian Brauner (Amutable)" <brauner@kernel.org>,
	 workflows@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2026 15:58:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akZ8aDANoyt5qjsL@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260702145322.GG3534761@killaraus.ideasonboard.com>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 05:53:22PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2026 at 10:32:48AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > We've had this requirement in place in the Documentation for several
> > months, but it's becoming clear that the signal to noise ratio from this
> > is quite low.
> >
> > 1/ It's not universally followed. While many people do try to attribute
> > the LLMs in good faith, not everyone does for various reasons.
> >
> > 2/ It basically serves as free advertising for proprietary LLM companies.
> >
> > 3/ It's not clear why we want to collect this info in the first place.
> >
> > Given that the data this provides is flawed at best and is being
> > collected for a purpose that isn't clear, let's just kill the
> > requirement for these tags from the kernel at large.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
> > ---
> > Christian had proposed watering down the LLM attribution, but I think
> > it's not productive to try and track this until we have a clearer sense
> > of what we want to do with this information and how to make it more
> > reliable.
> > ---
> >  Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst  | 22 ----------------------
> >  Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst | 10 ----------
>
> You're missing scripts/checkpatch.pl.
>
> >  2 files changed, 32 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> > index 899f4459c52d..c4cc0917fc92 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst
> > @@ -35,25 +35,3 @@ is responsible for:
> >  * Ensuring compliance with licensing requirements
> >  * Adding their own Signed-off-by tag to certify the DCO
> >  * Taking full responsibility for the contribution
> > -
> > -Attribution
> > -===========
> > -
> > -When AI tools contribute to kernel development, proper attribution
> > -helps track the evolving role of AI in the development process.
> > -Contributions should include an Assisted-by tag in the following format::
> > -
> > -  Assisted-by: AGENT_NAME:MODEL_VERSION [TOOL1] [TOOL2]
> > -
> > -Where:
> > -
> > -* ``AGENT_NAME`` is the name of the AI tool or framework
> > -* ``MODEL_VERSION`` is the specific model version used
> > -* ``[TOOL1] [TOOL2]`` are optional specialized analysis tools used
> > -  (e.g., coccinelle, sparse, smatch, clang-tidy)
> > -
> > -Basic development tools (git, gcc, make, editors) should not be listed.
> > -
> > -Example::
> > -
> > -  Assisted-by: Claude:claude-3-opus coccinelle sparse
>
> Documentation/process/generated-content.rst still clearly requests
> contributors to disclose usage of code-generation tools. Even if we drop
> the Assisted-by tag, I think it is useful to mention the requirement
> here (probably including a link to generated-content.rst).

I mean this is what I proposed, but Christian was opposed to me doing so?

I guess if this patch is going in over my objections anyway you may as well do
what I suggested with it, but I was going to send a separate patch providing a
link.

Let me know if it's not worth my time doing that.

>
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> > index cc6a1f73d7f2..b74c38aa9770 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst
> > @@ -634,16 +634,6 @@ bugzilla.kernel.org is a public place in this sense, but email addresses
> >  used there are private; so do not expose them in tags, unless the person
> >  used them in earlier contributions.
> >
> > -Using Assisted-by:
> > -------------------
> > -
> > -If you used any sort of advanced coding tool in the creation of your patch,
> > -you need to acknowledge that use by adding an Assisted-by tag.  Failure to
> > -do so may impede the acceptance of your work.  Please see
> > -Documentation/process/coding-assistants.rst for details regarding the
> > -acknowledgment of coding assistants.
> > -
> > -
> >  .. _the_canonical_patch_format:
> >
> >  The canonical patch format
> >
> > ---
> > base-commit: 665159e246749578d4e4bfe106ee3b74edcdab18
> > change-id: 20260702-aidoc-7e18f221d63a
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Laurent Pinchart

Thanks, Lorenzo

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-02 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-02 14:32 [PATCH] Documentation: remove the requirement for LLM attribution Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 14:53 ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 14:58   ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2026-07-02 15:02   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 15:07     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 14:57 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:28   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:36     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:44       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:07 ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 15:13   ` Jonathan Corbet
2026-07-02 15:20     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 18:46     ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-03  2:57       ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:50         ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-03 16:12         ` Andreas Dilger
2026-07-02 15:15   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:33   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 15:37     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 15:36   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 15:57   ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:13     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-02 16:19       ` Greg KH
2026-07-02 16:32         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03  6:37           ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:23             ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03  7:30               ` Greg KH
2026-07-03  7:33                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 11:42                 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-03 11:53                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 12:04                   ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-02 16:48         ` Jeff Layton
2026-07-02 16:50           ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-02 21:17             ` Boris Burkov
2026-07-02 23:17               ` SJ Park
2026-07-03  7:05               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 13:12                 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2026-07-03 16:32                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-03 18:22                     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-03 18:26                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-07-02 23:05             ` SJ Park
2026-07-02 16:11 ` Chuck Lever
2026-07-02 16:14   ` Lorenzo Stoakes

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