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From: Wang Zhan <wang.zhan@smartx.com>
To: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, keyong.sun@smartx.com,
	Wang Zhan <wang.zhan@smartx.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	Jason Wang <jasowangio@gmail.com>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	Alice Mikityanska <alice@isovalent.com>,
	Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>,
	Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>,
	Eelco Chaudron <echaudro@redhat.com>,
	dev@openvswitch.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: gso: support bounded TCP segmentation
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 17:45:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260923094517.3998941-1-wang.zhan@smartx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <willemdebruijn.kernel.2984a0c37a5cf@gmail.com>

On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 16:36:37 -0400 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> Wang Zhan wrote:
>> I tried it: https://github.com/zwtop/linux/pull/3
>>
>> It does read better, but whether to resegment is the caller's choice: the
>> qdiscs strip the GSO bits to get one packet per segment (sch_netem.c:443),
>> and a device-derived limit groups that output instead - which sch_netem then
>> drops, because skb_checksum_help() on the first segment rejects a GSO skb
>> (sch_netem.c:538, net/core/dev.c:3626).
>
> So this is a rare netem edge case we need to handle.

That is only one example.  I have not checked every caller, but at least tc
sched tbf/cake and the OVS upcall are as well.

> In the hot path, we should be able to defer the decision whether to
> segment entirely or segment to the capabilities of the device to
> skb_segment itself.

Deciding it entirely inside skb_segment(), without passing extra
information, is difficult: the oversize case overlaps with the cases above.
And the features we pass in may also have had NETIF_F_GSO_MASK cleared, so
it would have to take the device from skb->dev (that should not be much of a
problem if we only handle the TX path).

>> The features cannot tell the two
>> cases apart either: gso_features_check() clears the same bits for an
>> over-limit skb (net/core/dev.c:3843).
>
> I wonder if we can refine this instead.

Maybe we can add a bool to skb_gso_cb saying whether GSO output is allowed,
and leave it to skb_segment() to decide whether a GSO packet is actually
emitted, and the max-segs.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-18  8:46 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] net: resegment oversized TCP GSO skbs Wang Zhan
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] net: core: factor out the GSO device limit check Wang Zhan
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: gso: support bounded TCP segmentation Wang Zhan
2026-09-19 15:35   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-20 13:12     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 20:36       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-23  9:45         ` Wang Zhan [this message]
2026-09-23 16:42           ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-24  9:03             ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 21:07       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-23 10:38         ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-23 16:44           ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-24  9:27             ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 20:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-09-23 16:50   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-24  9:09     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-24 10:53   ` David Laight
2026-09-24 12:15     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-24 14:09   ` Paolo Abeni
2026-09-25  7:45     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] net: core: resegment oversized TCP GSO skbs Wang Zhan
2026-09-19 15:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-20 13:31     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-24 14:02     ` Paolo Abeni
2026-09-21 20:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] net: net_test: add tests for bounded GSO segmentation Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 20:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko

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