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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Wang Zhan <wang.zhan@smartx.com>,
	 netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	 Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net,  edumazet@google.com,  kuba@kernel.org,
	 pabeni@redhat.com,  horms@kernel.org,  keyong.sun@smartx.com,
	 Wang Zhan <wang.zhan@smartx.com>,
	 Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	 Jason Wang <jasowangio@gmail.com>,
	 Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	 Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	 Alice Mikityanska <alice@isovalent.com>,
	 Ilya Maximets <i.maximets@ovn.org>,
	 Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>,
	 Eelco Chaudron <echaudro@redhat.com>,
	 dev@openvswitch.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: gso: support bounded TCP segmentation
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 12:42:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <willemdebruijn.kernel.c1280e613430@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260923094517.3998941-1-wang.zhan@smartx.com>

Wang Zhan wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2026 16:36:37 -0400 Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > Wang Zhan wrote:
> >> I tried it: https://github.com/zwtop/linux/pull/3
> >>
> >> It does read better, but whether to resegment is the caller's choice: the
> >> qdiscs strip the GSO bits to get one packet per segment (sch_netem.c:443),
> >> and a device-derived limit groups that output instead - which sch_netem then
> >> drops, because skb_checksum_help() on the first segment rejects a GSO skb
> >> (sch_netem.c:538, net/core/dev.c:3626).
> >
> > So this is a rare netem edge case we need to handle.
> 
> That is only one example.  I have not checked every caller, but at least tc
> sched tbf/cake and the OVS upcall are as well.
> 
> > In the hot path, we should be able to defer the decision whether to
> > segment entirely or segment to the capabilities of the device to
> > skb_segment itself.
> 
> Deciding it entirely inside skb_segment(), without passing extra
> information, is difficult: the oversize case overlaps with the cases above.
> And the features we pass in may also have had NETIF_F_GSO_MASK cleared, so
> it would have to take the device from skb->dev (that should not be much of a
> problem if we only handle the TX path).
> 
> >> The features cannot tell the two
> >> cases apart either: gso_features_check() clears the same bits for an
> >> over-limit skb (net/core/dev.c:3843).
> >
> > I wonder if we can refine this instead.
> 
> Maybe we can add a bool to skb_gso_cb saying whether GSO output is allowed,
> and leave it to skb_segment() to decide whether a GSO packet is actually
> emitted, and the max-segs.

Precomputing in the caller, as the current series does, is fine too,
if some caller-specific context is needed.

I'm mostly concerned about duplicating logic and the number of
functions touched in this series. But skb_segment itself is too
complex already, so preferable to minimize complication there.
(The reuse of partial for this purpose is very neat.)

If only validate_xmit_skb allows this, because all other segmentation
callers do want full segmentation (not checked, but I can believe
that), the current approach is fine. If we can clean up the repeated
tests and simplify the code in general.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-18  8:46 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] net: resegment oversized TCP GSO skbs Wang Zhan
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] net: core: factor out the GSO device limit check Wang Zhan
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] net: gso: support bounded TCP segmentation Wang Zhan
2026-09-19 15:35   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-20 13:12     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 20:36       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-23  9:45         ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-23 16:42           ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2026-09-24  9:03             ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 21:07       ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-23 10:38         ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-23 16:44           ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-24  9:27             ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 20:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-09-23 16:50   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-24  9:09     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-24 10:53   ` David Laight
2026-09-24 12:15     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-24 14:09   ` Paolo Abeni
2026-09-25  7:45     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] net: core: resegment oversized TCP GSO skbs Wang Zhan
2026-09-19 15:37   ` Willem de Bruijn
2026-09-20 13:31     ` Wang Zhan
2026-09-24 14:02     ` Paolo Abeni
2026-09-21 20:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-09-18  8:46 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] net: net_test: add tests for bounded GSO segmentation Wang Zhan
2026-09-21 20:50   ` netdev-bot+sashiko

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