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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	mst@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	nrupal.jani@intel.com, Piotr.Uminski@intel.com,
	hang.yuan@intel.com
Cc: virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v8 4/9] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 14:14:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8735abf7ww.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221121012419.317406-5-mst@redhat.com>

On Sun, Nov 20 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> The admin virtqueues will be the first interface to issue admin commands.
>
> Currently virtio specification defines control virtqueue to manipulate
> features and configuration of the device it operates on. However,
> control virtqueue commands are device type specific, which makes it very
> difficult to extend for device agnostic commands.
>
> To support this requirement in a more generic way, this patch introduces
> a new admin virtqueue interface.
>
> We also support more than one admin virtqueue, for QoS and
> scalability requirements.
>
> Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> ---
>  admin.tex   | 53 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  content.tex |  6 ++++--
>  2 files changed, 57 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/admin.tex b/admin.tex
> index 507e188..bfa63a2 100644
> --- a/admin.tex
> +++ b/admin.tex
> @@ -128,3 +128,56 @@ \subsection{Group administration commands}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virti
>  other   & -    & group administration command error  \\
>  \hline
>  \end{tabular}
> +
> +\section{Administration Virtqueues}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Administration Virtqueues}
> +
> +An administration virtqueue of an owner device is used to submit
> +group administration commands. An owner device can have more
> +than one administration virtqueue.
> +
> +Administration virtqueues exists for a certain owner device if
> +VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ feature has been negotiated. The index of the
> +first administration virtqueue and their number is exposed by the
> +owner device in a transport specific manner.

(Do we always expect admin virtqueues to use a range of indices, i.e. no
holes? That seems a bit limiting.)

What about

"If VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ has been negotiated, an owner device exposes one
or more adminstration virtqueues. The number and locations of the
administration virtqueues is exposed by the owner device in a transport
specific manner."

> +
> +The driver submits commands by queueing them to an arbitrary
> +administration virtqueue, and they are processed by the
> +device in the order in which they are queued. It is the
> +responsibility of the driver to ensure ordering for commands
> +placed on different administration virtqueues, because they will
> +be executed with no order constraints.

Are all admin vqs supposed to be equal? Could a device expose e.g. a
high prio admin vq and a normal prio admin vq?

> +
> +Administration virtqueues are used as follows:
> +\begin{itemize}
> +\item Driver submits the command using the \field{struct virtio_admin_cmd}

s/Driver/The driver/

> +structure using two buffers: a device-readable one followed by a
> +device-writable one.
> +\item the device-readable buffer includes fields from \field{opcode}
> +through \field{command_specific_data}.
> +\item the device-writeable buffer includes fields from \field{status}
> +through \field{command_specific_result} inclusive.
> +\end{itemize}
> +
> +It is legal for the driver to submit commands with
> +device-writeable and device-readable structures with buffer
> +length both shorter or longer than the length of the
> +\field{command_specific_data} structure described in this
> +specification. Device silently truncates the structures to the

s/Device/The device/

> +shorter of the two lengths (submitted by driver and described in this
> +specification).

"...to either the length submitted by the driver, or the length
described in this specification, whichever is shorter."

> Device silently ignores any data falling outside

s/Device/The device/

> +the shorter of the two lengths. Any missing fields are assumed to be
> +set to zero.
> +
> +Similarly, it is legal for the device to use, for a specific
> +command, a shorter part of the \field{command_specific_result}
> +buffer than the length of the structure described in this
> +specification. Driver silently ignores any data falling outside

s/Driver/The driver/

> +the used buffer length reported by the device.  Any missing
> +fields are assumed to be set to zero.
> +
> +This simplifies driver implementations since the driver can
> +simply maintain a single large C structure for a command and its
> +result. As new versions of the specification are designed,
> +new fields can be added to the tail of a structure,
> +with driver using the full structure without concern

s/driver/the driver/

> +for versioning.
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index 9deacbf..d2fd1de 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -99,10 +99,10 @@ \section{Feature Bits}\label{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Feature B
>  \begin{description}
>  \item[0 to 23, and 50 to 127] Feature bits for the specific device type
>  
> -\item[24 to 40] Feature bits reserved for extensions to the queue and
> +\item[24 to 41] Feature bits reserved for extensions to the queue and
>    feature negotiation mechanisms
>  
> -\item[41 to 49, and 128 and above] Feature bits reserved for future extensions.
> +\item[42 to 49, and 128 and above] Feature bits reserved for future extensions.
>  \end{description}
>  
>  \begin{note}
> @@ -6985,6 +6985,8 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>    that the driver can reset a queue individually.
>    See \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues / Virtqueue Reset}.
>  
> +  \item[VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (41)] This feature indicates that an administration virtqueue is supported.

"This feature indicates that the device exposes one or more
administration virtqueues." ?

> +
>  \end{description}
>  
>  \drivernormative{\section}{Reserved Feature Bits}{Reserved Feature Bits}


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 13:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-21  1:25 [PATCH v8 0/9] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] virtio: document forward compatibility guarantees Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:24   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:21       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:11   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:26       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] admin: introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:43   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 13:14   ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-11-22 19:31     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:30       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:54           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 14:46   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:36       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:53   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 16:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 17:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22  8:50       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22  9:51         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 11:06   ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-15  9:09     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-12-15  9:52       ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-24 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 15:25   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:51       ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:00         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:09           ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:33               ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 11:21                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 16:06   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:20     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:52       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck

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