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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com,
	Piotr.Uminski@intel.com, hang.yuan@intel.com,
	virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v8 5/9] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:36:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k03mnhba.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221122142054-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, Nov 22 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 03:46:38PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 20 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > Add new registers to the PCI common configuration structure.
>> >
>> > These registers will be used for querying the indices of the admin
>> > virtqueues of the owner device. To configure, reset or enable the admin
>> > virtqueues, the driver should follow existing queue configuration/setup
>> > sequence.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
>> > Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
>> > ---
>> >  content.tex | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> > @@ -1112,6 +1129,14 @@ \subsubsection{Common configuration structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
>> >  were used before the queue reset.
>> >  (see \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues / Virtqueue Reset}).
>> >  
>> > +If VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ has been negotiated, and if the driver
>> > +configures any administration virtqueues, the driver MUST
>> > +configure the administration virtqueues using the index
>> > +in the range \field{admin_queue_index} to
>> > +\field{admin_queue_index} + \field{admin_queue_num} inclusive.
>> > +The driver MAY configure less administration virtqueues than
>> > +supported by the device.
>> 
>> Is the driver allowed to pick any admin queue from within the range,
>> e.g. queues 2 and 5, and leave the rest?
>
> I was split on this. In the end I don't see why not.
> Do you feel we need to document this?

It should work fine, I guess; probably no need to spell it out
explicitly.

>
>> > +
>> >  \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
>> >  
>> >  The notification location is found using the VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_NOTIFY_CFG
>> > @@ -6986,6 +7011,15 @@ \chapter{Reserved Feature Bits}\label{sec:Reserved Feature Bits}
>> >    See \ref{sec:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Virtqueues / Virtqueue Reset}.
>> >  
>> >    \item[VIRTIO_F_ADMIN_VQ (41)] This feature indicates that an administration virtqueue is supported.
>> > +  At the moment this feature is only supported for devices using
>> > +  \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI
>> > +	  Bus}~\nameref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus}
>> > +	  as the transport and is reserved for future use for
>> > +	  devices using other transports (see
>> > +	  \ref{drivernormative:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Feature Bits}
>> > +	and
>> > +	\ref{devicenormative:Basic Facilities of a Virtio Device / Feature Bits} for
>> > +	handling features reserved for future use.
>> >  
>> >  \end{description}
>> >  
>> 
>> We don't say for any other feature which transports support it; do we
>> really need to state it here explicitly if we have the rules for
>> reserved feature bits in place? It simply will be neither offered nor
>> accepted if the device and driver use an unsupported transport.
>
> It's just easy for someone to add code for feature in transport
> agnostic part and then it will be negotiated mistakenly when
> we add it for a new transport.
> Potential for such a bug is what worries me and this is why I add
> this in so many places. Harmless no?

By this reasoning, we probably should also add a comment for
NOTIFICATION_DATA and RING_RESET? (On top, of course.)


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-23  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-21  1:25 [PATCH v8 0/9] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] virtio: document forward compatibility guarantees Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:24   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:21       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:11   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:26       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] admin: introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:43   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 13:14   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:31     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:30       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:54           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 14:46   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:36       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-11-23  9:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:53   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 16:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 17:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22  8:50       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22  9:51         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 11:06   ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-15  9:09     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-12-15  9:52       ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-24 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 15:25   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:51       ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:00         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:09           ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:33               ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 11:21                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 16:06   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:20     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:52       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck

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