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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: virtio-comment@lists.oasis-open.org,
	virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jasowang@redhat.com,
	sgarzare@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com, nrupal.jani@intel.com,
	Piotr.Uminski@intel.com, hang.yuan@intel.com,
	virtio@lists.oasis-open.org,
	Zhu Lingshan <lingshan.zhu@intel.com>,
	pasic@linux.ibm.com, Shahaf Shuler <shahafs@nvidia.com>,
	Parav Pandit <parav@nvidia.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <mgurtovoy@nvidia.com>
Subject: [virtio] Re: [PATCH v8 8/9] admin: command list discovery
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:51:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h6yqngm4.fsf@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221122140607-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, Nov 22 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 04:25:23PM +0100, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 20 2022, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> Using 0x instead of h suffix? Sure.
>
> We should probably document the syntax in introduction.tex
> though this seems low priority.

Nod.
>> > +When \field{status} is VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_EINVAL,
>> > +the following table describes possible \field{status_qialifier} values:
>> > +\begin{tabular}{|l|l|l|}
>> > +\hline
>> > +Status & Name & Description \\
>> > +\hline \hline
>> > +00h   & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_COMMAND   & command error: no additional information  \\
>> 
>> Either 0x00, or decimal (which one is better?)
>
> I think I prefer 0x here. And maybe I will add status values in both hex
> and decimal (I used decimal to be consistent with linux headers but
> fundamentally what we use most of the time is hex).

Ok.

>
>> > +\hline
>> > +01h   & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_OPCODE    & unsupported or invalid \field{opcode}  \\
>> > +\hline
>> > +02h   & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_FIELD    & unsupported or invalid field within \field{command_specific_data}  \\
>> > +\hline
>> > +03h   & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_GROUP    & unsupported or invalid \field{group_type} was set  \\
>> 
>> s/was set//
>> 
>> > +\hline
>> > +04h   & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_MEM    & unsupported or invalid \field{group_member_id} was set  \\
>> 
>> s/was set//
>> 
>> > +\hline
>> > +other   & -    & group administration command error  \\
>> 
>> Again the question whether this is something that can be defined per
>> group type.
>
> probably - above ones are generic, let's see if we need specific ones.
> if yes will be easy to add.

I think we want to distinguish between "reserved" (not defined yet, may
get a meaning later on) and "group type specific" (a group type may use
it, don't reuse for generic stuff). If we need group type specific
errors (and don't want a free-for-all), we could go with eg.

0x05 & VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_GROUP_ERR_0 & group type specific error \\

or so? Do we see any need for that yet?

>> > +The driver then enables use of some of the opcodes by sending to
>> > +the device the command VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_USE with a subset
>> > +of the list returned by VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_QUERY that is
>> > +both understood and used by the driver.
>> > +
>> > +If the device supports the command list used by the driver, the
>> > +device completes the command with status VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_OK.
>> > +If the device does not support the command list, the device
>> > +completes the command with status
>> > +VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_INVALID_FIELD.
>> > +
>> > +Note: drivers are assumed not to set bits in device_admin_cmds
>> > +if they are not familiar with how the command opcode
>> > +is used, since devices could have dependencies between
>> > +command opcodes.
>> > +
>> > +It is assumed that all members in a group support and are used
>> > +with the same list of commands.
>> 
>> Can the driver later change its mind, i.e. use VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_USE
>> a second time with a different set of commands? If yes, can it add
>> commands, or only withdraw them?
>
> I think it's ok to allow changing them arbitrarily at any time.
> If driver wants to "lock down" the list then all it has to do
> is send a list with VIRTIO_ADMIN_CMD_LIST_USE cleared.
>
> It seemed clear along the lines of since it's not prohibited it's
> allowed but since the question arose I will add a conformance clause for
> this.

So if the driver sends LIST_USE with an additional command, and the
device rejects that list (because of dependencies or whatever), is the
list of commands supposed to stay whatever it was prior to that?

>
>
>> What happens if a driver tries to send a command that it had not
>> included in the list?
>
>
> This is covered in conformance statements in the next patch.
>
> +
> +Device MUST validate commands against the list used by
> +driver and MUST fail any commands not in the list with
> +\field{status} set to VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_EINVAL
> +and \field{status_qualifier} set to
> +VIRTIO_ADMIN_STATUS_Q_INVALID_OPCODE.

Ok.


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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-23  9:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-21  1:25 [PATCH v8 0/9] Introduce device group and device management Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] virtio: document forward compatibility guarantees Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:24   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:21       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:28         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] admin: introduce device group and related concepts Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:11   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 20:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:26       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] admin: introduce group administration commands Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 12:43   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] admin: introduce virtio admin virtqueues Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 13:14   ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:31     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:30       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:32         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:54           ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] pci: add admin vq registers to virtio over pci Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 14:46   ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:36       ` [virtio-comment] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23  9:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] mmio: document ADMIN_VQ as reserved Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] ccw: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 15:53   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-21 16:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 17:09     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22  8:50       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22  9:51         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] admin: command list discovery Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21 11:06   ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-15  9:09     ` [virtio-comment] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-12-15  9:52       ` Uminski, Piotr
2022-12-24 18:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 15:25   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:51       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2022-11-23 10:00         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:09           ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 10:16             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23 10:33               ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-23 11:21                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-21  1:25 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] admin: conformance clauses Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-22 16:06   ` [virtio] " Cornelia Huck
2022-11-22 19:20     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-11-23  9:52       ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck

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