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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][KVM][retry 3] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:54:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1242809657.26820.559.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A13C40B.8080608@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:49 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> That said, I still thoroughly dislike this whole approach.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Can you explain why?  We have a thread that has detected that it's 
> >> spinning.  Keeping on spinning is a waste of cpu time.  Why not let 
> >> something else use the cpu?
> >>     
> >
> > Because its a polling interface. I much prefer it if we were to get a
> > wakeup notification when the vcpu holding the lock releases it.
> >   
> 
> It's a fully virtualized guest.  There's no way to get this without 
> patching the guest kernel.

Yes there is.. virtualized monitor-wait stuff coupled with a
monitor-wait based spinlock implementation.

Once we go change silicon, you might as well do it right.

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][retry 3] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 10:54:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1242809657.26820.559.camel@twins> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A13C40B.8080608@redhat.com>

On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 11:49 +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> That said, I still thoroughly dislike this whole approach.
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Can you explain why?  We have a thread that has detected that it's 
> >> spinning.  Keeping on spinning is a waste of cpu time.  Why not let 
> >> something else use the cpu?
> >>     
> >
> > Because its a polling interface. I much prefer it if we were to get a
> > wakeup notification when the vcpu holding the lock releases it.
> >   
> 
> It's a fully virtualized guest.  There's no way to get this without 
> patching the guest kernel.

Yes there is.. virtualized monitor-wait stuff coupled with a
monitor-wait based spinlock implementation.

Once we go change silicon, you might as well do it right.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-20  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-05 14:09 [PATCH][KVM] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-05 16:05 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-05-07 13:55 ` Joerg Roedel
2009-05-07 15:00   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-07 15:00     ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-07 15:31     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:15       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:15         ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:24         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:24           ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:33           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:33             ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:51             ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:51               ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:59               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:59                 ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 15:12                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:12                   ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:18                   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 15:18                     ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 15:28                     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:28                       ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:36                       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:36                         ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:40                         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:58                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMDSVM Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:58                   ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:01               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 15:01                 ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 15:06                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:06                   ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:42           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 15:05             ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:05               ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 17:03     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 2] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-08 17:03       ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-08 18:44       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 18:44         ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 18:47         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-08 18:47           ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-19 18:56       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 3] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-19 18:56         ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-20  7:40         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-20  7:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  7:59           ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:38           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:38             ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:42             ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:42               ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:49               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:49                 ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:54                 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2009-05-20  8:54                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  9:04                   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  9:04                     ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  9:10                     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  9:10                       ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  9:17                       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  9:17                         ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 13:52                       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-20 13:52                         ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-20 12:00         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 12:00           ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 22:25         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 4] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-20 22:25           ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-21  8:47           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-21  8:47             ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-07-08  5:19           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-08  5:19             ` [PATCH][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-08 14:59             ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-07-08 14:59               ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-07-09  1:50               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-09  1:50                 ` [PATCH][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-22 22:40                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-07-22 22:40                   ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-08-05  9:08                   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Zhai, Edwin
2009-08-05  9:08                     ` [PATCH][retry " Zhai, Edwin
2009-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH][KVM] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 14:51   ` Ingo Molnar

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