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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:15:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090511141503.GC6175@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A02FECC.6060609@redhat.com>


* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:

>>  +static int pause_interception(struct vcpu_svm *svm, struct kvm_run 
>> *kvm_run)
>> +{
>> +	/* Simple yield */
>> +	vcpu_put(&svm->vcpu);
>> +	schedule();
>> +	vcpu_load(&svm->vcpu);
>> +	return 1;
>> +
>
> Ingo, will this do anything under CFS, or will CFS note that 
> nothing has changed in the accounting and reschedule us 
> immediately?

The scheduler will yield to another task only if the current task 
has become ineligible. I.e schedule() is largely a NOP on 
TASK_RUNNING tasks (i.e. here).

I.e. this is a somewhat poor solution as far as scheduling goes. But 
i'm wondering what the CPU side does. Can REP-NOP really take 
thousands of cycles? If yes, under what circumstances?

	Ingo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Mark Langsdorf <mark.langsdorf@amd.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][retry 1] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:15:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090511141503.GC6175@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A02FECC.6060609@redhat.com>


* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:

>>  +static int pause_interception(struct vcpu_svm *svm, struct kvm_run 
>> *kvm_run)
>> +{
>> +	/* Simple yield */
>> +	vcpu_put(&svm->vcpu);
>> +	schedule();
>> +	vcpu_load(&svm->vcpu);
>> +	return 1;
>> +
>
> Ingo, will this do anything under CFS, or will CFS note that 
> nothing has changed in the accounting and reschedule us 
> immediately?

The scheduler will yield to another task only if the current task 
has become ineligible. I.e schedule() is largely a NOP on 
TASK_RUNNING tasks (i.e. here).

I.e. this is a somewhat poor solution as far as scheduling goes. But 
i'm wondering what the CPU side does. Can REP-NOP really take 
thousands of cycles? If yes, under what circumstances?

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-11 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-05 14:09 [PATCH][KVM] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-05 16:05 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-05-07 13:55 ` Joerg Roedel
2009-05-07 15:00   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-07 15:00     ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-07 15:31     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:15       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2009-05-11 14:15         ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:24         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:24           ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:33           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:33             ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:51             ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:51               ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:59               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 14:59                 ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 15:12                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:12                   ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:18                   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 15:18                     ` [PATCH][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-11 15:28                     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:28                       ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:36                       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:36                         ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:40                         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:58                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMDSVM Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:58                   ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-11 15:01               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 1] Add support for Pause Filtering to AMD SVM Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 15:01                 ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 15:06                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:06                   ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:42           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 15:05             ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 15:05               ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 17:03     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 2] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-08 17:03       ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-08 18:44       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 18:44         ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-08 18:47         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-08 18:47           ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-19 18:56       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 3] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-19 18:56         ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-20  7:40         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-20  7:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  7:59           ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:38           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:38             ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:42             ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:42               ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:49               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:49                 ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  8:54                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  8:54                   ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  9:04                   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  9:04                     ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  9:10                     ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  9:10                       ` [PATCH][retry " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-20  9:17                       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20  9:17                         ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 13:52                       ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-20 13:52                         ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-05-20 12:00         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 12:00           ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 22:25         ` [PATCH][KVM][retry 4] " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-20 22:25           ` [PATCH][retry " Mark Langsdorf
2009-05-21  8:47           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-05-21  8:47             ` [PATCH][retry " Avi Kivity
2009-07-08  5:19           ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-08  5:19             ` [PATCH][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-08 14:59             ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-07-08 14:59               ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-07-09  1:50               ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-09  1:50                 ` [PATCH][retry " Sheng Yang
2009-07-22 22:40                 ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-07-22 22:40                   ` [PATCH][retry " Langsdorf, Mark
2009-08-05  9:08                   ` [PATCH][KVM][retry " Zhai, Edwin
2009-08-05  9:08                     ` [PATCH][retry " Zhai, Edwin
2009-05-11 14:38 ` [PATCH][KVM] " Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-11 14:51   ` Ingo Molnar

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