From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:41:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1377204069.2737.108@driftwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWqwQxxky7UDnh-oxN13C-sxfnxKVBuBz1GU_RtJvbf3A@mail.gmail.com> (from geert@linux-m68k.org on Thu Aug 22 07:58:26 2013)
On 08/22/2013 07:58:26 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
> wrote:
> >> > The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
> >> > These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH !=
> SUBARCH.
> >> > Do really need that behavior?
> >>
> >> This does remove functionality.
> >> It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".
> >>
> >> Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!)
> cross-toolchains
> >> are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
> >> Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.
> >
> > Today you can specify CROSS_COMPILE in Kconfig.
> > With this we should be able to remove these hacks.
>
> The correct CROSS_COMPILE value depends on the host environment, not
> on the target configuration.
Actually it depends on _both_.
Rob
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:41:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1377204069.2737.108@driftwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWqwQxxky7UDnh-oxN13C-sxfnxKVBuBz1GU_RtJvbf3A@mail.gmail.com> (from geert@linux-m68k.org on Thu Aug 22 07:58:26 2013)
On 08/22/2013 07:58:26 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
> wrote:
> >> > The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
> >> > These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH !=
> SUBARCH.
> >> > Do really need that behavior?
> >>
> >> This does remove functionality.
> >> It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".
> >>
> >> Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!)
> cross-toolchains
> >> are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
> >> Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.
> >
> > Today you can specify CROSS_COMPILE in Kconfig.
> > With this we should be able to remove these hacks.
>
> The correct CROSS_COMPILE value depends on the host environment, not
> on the target configuration.
Actually it depends on _both_.
Rob
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
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On 08/22/2013 01:41 PM, Rob Landley wrote:
> On 08/22/2013 07:58:26 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org> wrote:
>> >> > The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
>> >> > These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH !=
>> SUBARCH.
>> >> > Do really need that behavior?
>> >>
>> >> This does remove functionality.
>> >> It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".
>> >>
>> >> Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!)
>> cross-toolchains
>> >> are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
>> >> Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.
>> >
>> > Today you can specify CROSS_COMPILE in Kconfig.
>> > With this we should be able to remove these hacks.
>>
>> The correct CROSS_COMPILE value depends on the host environment, not
>> on the target configuration.
>
> Actually it depends on _both_.
>
I think the important issue is not the exact dependencies of the value
of CROSS_COMPILE, but rather that it varies enough that automatically
choosing a value based on SUBARCH often gives the wrong result.
Removing SUBARCH and setting CROSS_COMPILE either from the make command
line (or environment) or the config file, is a good idea because it
simplifies the build system, makes things clearer, and yields more
predictable results.
David Daney
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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:41:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1377204069.2737.108@driftwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWqwQxxky7UDnh-oxN13C-sxfnxKVBuBz1GU_RtJvbf3A@mail.gmail.com> (from geert@linux-m68k.org on Thu Aug 22 07:58:26 2013)
On 08/22/2013 07:58:26 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
> wrote:
> >> > The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
> >> > These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH !=
> SUBARCH.
> >> > Do really need that behavior?
> >>
> >> This does remove functionality.
> >> It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".
> >>
> >> Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!)
> cross-toolchains
> >> are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
> >> Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.
> >
> > Today you can specify CROSS_COMPILE in Kconfig.
> > With this we should be able to remove these hacks.
>
> The correct CROSS_COMPILE value depends on the host environment, not
> on the target configuration.
Actually it depends on _both_.
Rob
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Cc: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:41:09 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1377204069.2737.108@driftwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdWqwQxxky7UDnh-oxN13C-sxfnxKVBuBz1GU_RtJvbf3A@mail.gmail.com> (from geert@linux-m68k.org on Thu Aug 22 07:58:26 2013)
On 08/22/2013 07:58:26 AM, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
> wrote:
> >> > The series touches also m68k, sh, mips and unicore32.
> >> > These architectures magically select a cross compiler if ARCH !=
> SUBARCH.
> >> > Do really need that behavior?
> >>
> >> This does remove functionality.
> >> It allows to build a kernel using e.g. "make ARCH=m68k".
> >>
> >> Perhaps this can be moved to generic code? Most (not all!)
> cross-toolchains
> >> are called $ARCH-{unknown-,}linux{,-gnu}.
> >> Exceptions are e.g. am33_2.0-linux and bfin-uclinux.
> >
> > Today you can specify CROSS_COMPILE in Kconfig.
> > With this we should be able to remove these hacks.
>
> The correct CROSS_COMPILE value depends on the host environment, not
> on the target configuration.
Actually it depends on _both_.
Rob
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2013-08-21 8:19 [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:32 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:58 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:52 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:54 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:55 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:12 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:25 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:58 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:48 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:18 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] um: Remove old defconfig Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] m68k: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] sh: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] mips: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] unicore32: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] Makefile: Remove SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:07 ` [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-22 12:42 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
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2013-08-21 8:19 Richard Weinberger
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