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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:01:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52441407.9010603@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALkWK0k5neR50h+AWEF5AgnpbgWMitZUnbv_caVzt6HiUA6mXg@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.09.2013 12:53, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> So, what exactly is broken in upstream?
>> make defconfig works as it always did.
> 
> Auto-detection of SUBARCH, which can be done with a simple call to
> uname -m (the 90% case). The second patch I submitted prevented
> spawning xterms unnecessarily, which we discussed was a good move.

Covering only 90% of all cases is not enough.
We must not break existing setups.
That's also why my "Get rid of SUBARCH" series is not upstream.

Your second patch changed CONFIG_CON_CHAN to pts, which is ok but not
a major issue.
The xterms are also not spawning unnecessarily they spawn upon a tty device is opened.
With your patch UML create another pts. Thus, the spawning is hidden...
I did not push it upstream because it depended on your first one and as I said, it's not critical.
This does not mean that I moved it to /dev/null.
Again, the plan is to get rid of SUBARCH at all.

>> make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86 (or SUBARCH=i386) will create a defconfig for 32bit.
>> make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86_64 one for 64bit.
> 
> Yes, that's how I prepared the patch in the first place.

So, nothing is broken.

If you want "make defconfig ARCH=um" creating a defconfig for the correct arch you need
more than your first patch. Again, "Get rid of SUBARCH" series has the same goal.

Thanks,
//richard

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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 11:01:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52441407.9010603@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALkWK0k5neR50h+AWEF5AgnpbgWMitZUnbv_caVzt6HiUA6mXg@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.09.2013 12:53, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> So, what exactly is broken in upstream?
>> make defconfig works as it always did.
> 
> Auto-detection of SUBARCH, which can be done with a simple call to
> uname -m (the 90% case). The second patch I submitted prevented
> spawning xterms unnecessarily, which we discussed was a good move.

Covering only 90% of all cases is not enough.
We must not break existing setups.
That's also why my "Get rid of SUBARCH" series is not upstream.

Your second patch changed CONFIG_CON_CHAN to pts, which is ok but not
a major issue.
The xterms are also not spawning unnecessarily they spawn upon a tty device is opened.
With your patch UML create another pts. Thus, the spawning is hidden...
I did not push it upstream because it depended on your first one and as I said, it's not critical.
This does not mean that I moved it to /dev/null.
Again, the plan is to get rid of SUBARCH at all.

>> make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86 (or SUBARCH=i386) will create a defconfig for 32bit.
>> make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86_64 one for 64bit.
> 
> Yes, that's how I prepared the patch in the first place.

So, nothing is broken.

If you want "make defconfig ARCH=um" creating a defconfig for the correct arch you need
more than your first patch. Again, "Get rid of SUBARCH" series has the same goal.

Thanks,
//richard

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:01:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52441407.9010603@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALkWK0k5neR50h+AWEF5AgnpbgWMitZUnbv_caVzt6HiUA6mXg@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.09.2013 12:53, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> So, what exactly is broken in upstream?
>> make defconfig works as it always did.
> 
> Auto-detection of SUBARCH, which can be done with a simple call to
> uname -m (the 90% case). The second patch I submitted prevented
> spawning xterms unnecessarily, which we discussed was a good move.

Covering only 90% of all cases is not enough.
We must not break existing setups.
That's also why my "Get rid of SUBARCH" series is not upstream.

Your second patch changed CONFIG_CON_CHAN to pts, which is ok but not
a major issue.
The xterms are also not spawning unnecessarily they spawn upon a tty device is opened.
With your patch UML create another pts. Thus, the spawning is hidden...
I did not push it upstream because it depended on your first one and as I said, it's not critical.
This does not mean that I moved it to /dev/null.
Again, the plan is to get rid of SUBARCH at all.

>> make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86 (or SUBARCH=i386) will create a defconfig for 32bit.
>> make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86_64 one for 64bit.
> 
> Yes, that's how I prepared the patch in the first place.

So, nothing is broken.

If you want "make defconfig ARCH=um" creating a defconfig for the correct arch you need
more than your first patch. Again, "Get rid of SUBARCH" series has the same goal.

Thanks,
//richard

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-26 11:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-21  8:19 [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-22  4:55   ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22  4:55     ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22  4:55     ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-26 10:20   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:32     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:20     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:57       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:58         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:57         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:04         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:22       ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22       ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22         ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22         ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22         ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:26         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:26         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:26           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:26           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:20   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:40   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:52     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:40     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:44     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:53       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:54         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:01         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01         ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2013-09-26 11:01           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:43           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:55             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:43             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:56             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:00               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:12                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:25                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:56                     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:56                       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:57                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:58                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:24                     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24                       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24                       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:36                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:48                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 15:04                         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04                         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04                           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04                           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 16:06                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:18                             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06                             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 17:10                             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10                               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10                               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10                             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:13                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:44     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:40   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] um: Remove old defconfig Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] m68k: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] sh: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] mips: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] unicore32: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] Makefile: Remove SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:07 ` [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 17:25   ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25   ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25     ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25     ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25     ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 19:51   ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51     ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51     ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-22 12:42     ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-22 12:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 20:41       ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41       ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55         ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55           ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55           ` David Daney
2013-08-22 21:32           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55         ` David Daney
2013-08-21 19:51   ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53   ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53   ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:58     ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser

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