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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
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	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:24:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524443AC.3040409@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU3LdDhbp_AKjD7b8Wytbqfp29DrPwTdtwQa2hUNdcy3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.09.2013 15:26, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra
> <artagnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
>>> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> I told you already that "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86" will spuriously
>>>> create a x86_64 config on x86_64.
>>>> This breaks existing setups.
>>>
>>> I'll fix this and resubmit soon.
>>
>> Wait a minute. You're now arguing about whether the generic "x86"
>> means i386 or x86_64. Its meaning is already defined in
>> arch/x86/Kconfig and arch/x86/um/Kconfig: see the config 64BIT. Unless
>> i386 is explicitly specified, the default is to build a 64-bit kernel.
>> That is already defined for a normal Linux kernel, and user-mode Linux
>> should not break that convention. So, in the example you pulled out of
>> your hat:
>>
>>   $ make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86
>>
>> the user should expect a 64-bit build, and not an i386 build as you
>> say. Both my patches are correct, and the "regression" that you
>> pointed out is a red herring.
> 
> Sorry for chiming in, but... what about cross compiling?
> SUBARCH=x86 should give you a 32-bit ia32 kernel, right?

Correct.
Users expect from SUBARCH=x86 a i386 32bit UML kernel.

Thanks,
//richard

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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-m68k <linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org>,
	Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	uml-devel <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:24:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524443AC.3040409@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU3LdDhbp_AKjD7b8Wytbqfp29DrPwTdtwQa2hUNdcy3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.09.2013 15:26, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra
> <artagnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
>>> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> I told you already that "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86" will spuriously
>>>> create a x86_64 config on x86_64.
>>>> This breaks existing setups.
>>>
>>> I'll fix this and resubmit soon.
>>
>> Wait a minute. You're now arguing about whether the generic "x86"
>> means i386 or x86_64. Its meaning is already defined in
>> arch/x86/Kconfig and arch/x86/um/Kconfig: see the config 64BIT. Unless
>> i386 is explicitly specified, the default is to build a 64-bit kernel.
>> That is already defined for a normal Linux kernel, and user-mode Linux
>> should not break that convention. So, in the example you pulled out of
>> your hat:
>>
>>   $ make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86
>>
>> the user should expect a 64-bit build, and not an i386 build as you
>> say. Both my patches are correct, and the "regression" that you
>> pointed out is a red herring.
> 
> Sorry for chiming in, but... what about cross compiling?
> SUBARCH=x86 should give you a 32-bit ia32 kernel, right?

Correct.
Users expect from SUBARCH=x86 a i386 32bit UML kernel.

Thanks,
//richard


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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	Guan Xuetao <gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	linux-kbuild <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-m68k <linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MIPS Mailing List <linux-mips@linux-mips.org>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	uml-devel <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 16:24:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <524443AC.3040409@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdU3LdDhbp_AKjD7b8Wytbqfp29DrPwTdtwQa2hUNdcy3Q@mail.gmail.com>

Am 26.09.2013 15:26, schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Ramkumar Ramachandra
> <artagnon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
>>> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> I told you already that "make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86" will spuriously
>>>> create a x86_64 config on x86_64.
>>>> This breaks existing setups.
>>>
>>> I'll fix this and resubmit soon.
>>
>> Wait a minute. You're now arguing about whether the generic "x86"
>> means i386 or x86_64. Its meaning is already defined in
>> arch/x86/Kconfig and arch/x86/um/Kconfig: see the config 64BIT. Unless
>> i386 is explicitly specified, the default is to build a 64-bit kernel.
>> That is already defined for a normal Linux kernel, and user-mode Linux
>> should not break that convention. So, in the example you pulled out of
>> your hat:
>>
>>   $ make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=x86
>>
>> the user should expect a 64-bit build, and not an i386 build as you
>> say. Both my patches are correct, and the "regression" that you
>> pointed out is a red herring.
> 
> Sorry for chiming in, but... what about cross compiling?
> SUBARCH=x86 should give you a 32-bit ia32 kernel, right?

Correct.
Users expect from SUBARCH=x86 a i386 32bit UML kernel.

Thanks,
//richard


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-26 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-21  8:19 [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-22  4:55   ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22  4:55     ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22  4:55     ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-26 10:20   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:20   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:32     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:20     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:57       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:58         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:57         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:04         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:22       ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22       ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22         ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22         ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:22         ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27  9:26         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:26         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:26           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27  9:26           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:40   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:52     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:40     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:44     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:53       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:54         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:01         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:43           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:55             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:43             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:56             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:00               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:12                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:25                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13                   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26                     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:56                     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:56                       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:57                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:58                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57                     ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:24                     ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2013-09-26 14:24                       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24                       ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:36                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36                       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:48                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36                         ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 15:04                         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04                         ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04                           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04                           ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 16:06                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:18                             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06                             ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 17:10                             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10                               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10                               ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10                             ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 16:06                           ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:26                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:13                 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00               ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53       ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:40   ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] um: Remove old defconfig Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] m68k: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] sh: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] mips: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] unicore32: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] Makefile: Remove SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21  8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:07 ` [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16     ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 17:25   ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25   ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25     ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25     ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25     ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 19:51   ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51     ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51     ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-22 12:42     ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-22 12:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 20:41       ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41       ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41         ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55         ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55         ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55           ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55           ` David Daney
2013-08-22 21:32           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32           ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32             ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 19:51   ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53   ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53   ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:58     ` H. Peter Anvin

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