From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: "Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org,
Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:26:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52454F38.60902@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52454E58.3010305@gmx.de>
Am 27.09.2013 11:22, schrieb Toralf Förster:
> On 09/26/2013 12:35 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Am 26.09.2013 12:20, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
>>> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> This patch is based on: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/4/396
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
>>>> ---
>>>> arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig | 954 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig | 943 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 2 files changed, 1897 insertions(+)
>>>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig
>>>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig
>>>
>>> First, I'm pissed that the upstream tree doesn't build and run out of
>>> the box months after I submitted a fix in July (and it's September
>>> now). Fact that you dropped my sane patches aside and decided to write
>>> a much larger series aside, user-mode Linux in upstream is broken.
>>> This means that any user who does:
>>>
>>> $ ARCH=um make defconfig
>>> $ ARCH=um make
>>>
>>> will end up with a *broken* Linux _today_. Unless the user is living
>>> in the Stone Age with a 32-bit computer, this is what she will see
>>> when she attempts to boot up Linux:
>
> :-{
>
> Grmpf
>
> There are a lot of 32 bit user land linux installation (beside my own,
> look at the x86 Gentoo world) in the wild - even running on modern 64bit
> CPUs. The simple reason is that those installations run fine and the
> performance "boost" of 64bit often isn't worth a new reinstallation.
You *can* of course run 32bit userland on UML. Just create a 32bit UML on x86_64.
make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=i386
make linux ARCH=um SUBARCH=i386
This will work on x86_64 and x86 hosts.
Thanks,
//richard
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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: "Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org,
Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 09:26:16 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52454F38.60902@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52454E58.3010305@gmx.de>
Am 27.09.2013 11:22, schrieb Toralf Förster:
> On 09/26/2013 12:35 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Am 26.09.2013 12:20, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
>>> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> This patch is based on: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/4/396
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
>>>> ---
>>>> arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig | 954 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig | 943 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 2 files changed, 1897 insertions(+)
>>>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig
>>>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig
>>>
>>> First, I'm pissed that the upstream tree doesn't build and run out of
>>> the box months after I submitted a fix in July (and it's September
>>> now). Fact that you dropped my sane patches aside and decided to write
>>> a much larger series aside, user-mode Linux in upstream is broken.
>>> This means that any user who does:
>>>
>>> $ ARCH=um make defconfig
>>> $ ARCH=um make
>>>
>>> will end up with a *broken* Linux _today_. Unless the user is living
>>> in the Stone Age with a 32-bit computer, this is what she will see
>>> when she attempts to boot up Linux:
>
> :-{
>
> Grmpf
>
> There are a lot of 32 bit user land linux installation (beside my own,
> look at the x86 Gentoo world) in the wild - even running on modern 64bit
> CPUs. The simple reason is that those installations run fine and the
> performance "boost" of 64bit often isn't worth a new reinstallation.
You *can* of course run 32bit userland on UML. Just create a 32bit UML on x86_64.
make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=i386
make linux ARCH=um SUBARCH=i386
This will work on x86_64 and x86 hosts.
Thanks,
//richard
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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: "Toralf Förster" <toralf.foerster@gmx.de>
Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
geert@linux-m68k.org, ralf@linux-mips.org, lethal@linux-sh.org,
Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
gxt@mprc.pku.edu.cn, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
x86@kernel.org, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-m68k@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org,
user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:26:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52454F38.60902@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52454E58.3010305@gmx.de>
Am 27.09.2013 11:22, schrieb Toralf Förster:
> On 09/26/2013 12:35 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
>> Am 26.09.2013 12:20, schrieb Ramkumar Ramachandra:
>>> Richard Weinberger wrote:
>>>> This patch is based on: https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/4/396
>>>>
>>>> Cc: Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@gmail.com>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
>>>> ---
>>>> arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig | 954 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig | 943 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>> 2 files changed, 1897 insertions(+)
>>>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/i386_defconfig
>>>> create mode 100644 arch/um/configs/x86_64_defconfig
>>>
>>> First, I'm pissed that the upstream tree doesn't build and run out of
>>> the box months after I submitted a fix in July (and it's September
>>> now). Fact that you dropped my sane patches aside and decided to write
>>> a much larger series aside, user-mode Linux in upstream is broken.
>>> This means that any user who does:
>>>
>>> $ ARCH=um make defconfig
>>> $ ARCH=um make
>>>
>>> will end up with a *broken* Linux _today_. Unless the user is living
>>> in the Stone Age with a 32-bit computer, this is what she will see
>>> when she attempts to boot up Linux:
>
> :-{
>
> Grmpf
>
> There are a lot of 32 bit user land linux installation (beside my own,
> look at the x86 Gentoo world) in the wild - even running on modern 64bit
> CPUs. The simple reason is that those installations run fine and the
> performance "boost" of 64bit often isn't worth a new reinstallation.
You *can* of course run 32bit userland on UML. Just create a 32bit UML on x86_64.
make defconfig ARCH=um SUBARCH=i386
make linux ARCH=um SUBARCH=i386
This will work on x86_64 and x86 hosts.
Thanks,
//richard
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2013-08-21 8:19 [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 1/8] um: Create defconfigs for i386 and x86_64 Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-08-22 4:55 ` Stephen Rothwell
2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:32 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:58 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:22 ` Toralf Förster
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-27 9:26 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:35 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:20 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 2/8] um: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:52 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:44 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:54 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 10:53 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:01 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:55 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:43 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 11:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:12 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 12:00 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:25 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:13 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 13:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:56 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:58 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 13:57 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:24 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:48 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 14:36 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 15:04 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:18 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 16:06 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 17:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-09-26 13:26 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-09-26 10:40 ` Ramkumar Ramachandra
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 3/8] um: Remove old defconfig Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 4/8] m68k: Do not use SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 5/8] sh: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 6/8] mips: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 7/8] unicore32: " Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` [PATCH 8/8] Makefile: Remove SUBARCH Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 8:19 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:07 ` [RFC] Get rid of SUBARCH Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:07 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 12:16 ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 17:25 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-22 12:42 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 12:58 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:41 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 21:32 ` Rob Landley
2013-08-22 20:55 ` David Daney
2013-08-21 19:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:53 ` Thorsten Glaser
2013-08-21 12:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-21 12:58 ` H. Peter Anvin
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