From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Vitaly Bordug <vitb@kernel.crashing.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:11:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707262211.10223.bzolnier@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0707262136530.6614@poirot.grange>
Hi,
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > > driver to using platform-device. I got a reply, that it's not worth it now
> > > that IDE is slowly becoming obsolete, and the pata_platform serves the
> > > perpose perfectly well. I found this argument reasonable, I had the same
> > > doubt, just wanted to double-check. So, why do we now need a new legacy
> > > (a/drivers/ide/legacy/ide_platform.c) driver when a "modern" driver
> > > exists?
> >
> > We don't *need* it but some people still want to use old IDE and the
> > author was willing to make it neatly compatible so that anything that
> > works with the pata_platform should be able to use the ide_platform
> > driver and vice versa. For the shorter term that can only be a good thing
> > - arch code doesn't need to care about which driver is used, end users
> > can pick and it doesn't end up adding new ties between code and old IDE.
>
> Ok, thanks for the explanation Alan. So, there's no technical argument,
> just "being nice to the users", and add a new driver, which we know we'll
There are some rough edges (especially older and/or rare hardware,
this goes for both cotrollers and devices) that SCSI/libata don't
handle and IDE subsystem do.
> have to remove soon, thus having to persuade its users, who by that time
Well, we've been hearing "soon" for two years now...
> will get used to it and will not want to invest money into switching to
> another one...
PS wrt ide_arm.c changes, you really should have cc:ed the author... ;)
Thanks,
Bart
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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 22:11:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200707262211.10223.bzolnier@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0707262136530.6614@poirot.grange>
Hi,
On Thursday 26 July 2007, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Alan Cox wrote:
>
> > > driver to using platform-device. I got a reply, that it's not worth it now
> > > that IDE is slowly becoming obsolete, and the pata_platform serves the
> > > perpose perfectly well. I found this argument reasonable, I had the same
> > > doubt, just wanted to double-check. So, why do we now need a new legacy
> > > (a/drivers/ide/legacy/ide_platform.c) driver when a "modern" driver
> > > exists?
> >
> > We don't *need* it but some people still want to use old IDE and the
> > author was willing to make it neatly compatible so that anything that
> > works with the pata_platform should be able to use the ide_platform
> > driver and vice versa. For the shorter term that can only be a good thing
> > - arch code doesn't need to care about which driver is used, end users
> > can pick and it doesn't end up adding new ties between code and old IDE.
>
> Ok, thanks for the explanation Alan. So, there's no technical argument,
> just "being nice to the users", and add a new driver, which we know we'll
There are some rough edges (especially older and/or rare hardware,
this goes for both cotrollers and devices) that SCSI/libata don't
handle and IDE subsystem do.
> have to remove soon, thus having to persuade its users, who by that time
Well, we've been hearing "soon" for two years now...
> will get used to it and will not want to invest money into switching to
> another one...
PS wrt ide_arm.c changes, you really should have cc:ed the author... ;)
Thanks,
Bart
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-26 20:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-25 16:53 [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC8349E-mITX: use platform IDE driver for CF interface Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 17:06 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 17:06 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 17:54 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:01 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:01 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:19 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:19 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:39 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:39 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:30 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:30 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 16:24 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 16:24 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-25 18:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:46 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:46 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-26 17:21 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:21 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:45 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 17:45 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-31 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-06 17:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 17:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01 13:11 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 13:11 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 17:12 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:12 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 17:29 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 17:29 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 17:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Alan Cox
2007-07-25 17:43 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-25 17:59 ` Kumar Gala
2007-07-25 17:59 ` Kumar Gala
2007-07-25 19:00 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:00 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:05 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:05 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:16 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:16 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:35 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:35 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01 12:39 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 12:39 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06 17:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 17:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-25 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:37 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:48 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:48 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:54 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:54 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:01 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 20:01 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 20:09 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:09 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25 20:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-26 19:41 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 19:41 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 19:52 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 19:52 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 20:13 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 20:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2007-07-26 20:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
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