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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:52:38 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A8FB86.2010907@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0707262136530.6614@poirot.grange>

Hello.

Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:

>>>driver to using platform-device. I got a reply, that it's not worth it now 
>>>that IDE is slowly becoming obsolete, and the pata_platform serves the 
>>>perpose perfectly well. I found this argument reasonable, I had the same 
>>>doubt, just wanted to double-check. So, why do we now need a new legacy 
>>>(a/drivers/ide/legacy/ide_platform.c) driver when a "modern" driver 
>>>exists?

>>We don't *need* it but some people still want to use old IDE and the
>>author was willing to make it neatly compatible so that anything that
>>works with the pata_platform should be able to use the ide_platform
>>driver and vice versa. For the shorter term that can only be a good thing
>>- arch code doesn't need to care about which driver is used, end users
>>can pick and it doesn't end up adding new ties between code and old IDE.

> Ok, thanks for the explanation Alan. So, there's no technical argument, 
> just "being nice to the users", and add a new driver, which we know we'll 
> have to remove soon, thus having to persuade its users, who by that time 

    Define "soon". :-)

> will get used to it and will not want to invest money into switching to 
> another one...

    Invest into what if the drivers are functionally identical?

> Thanks
> Guennadi

MBR, Sergei

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:52:38 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A8FB86.2010907@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0707262136530.6614@poirot.grange>

Hello.

Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:

>>>driver to using platform-device. I got a reply, that it's not worth it now 
>>>that IDE is slowly becoming obsolete, and the pata_platform serves the 
>>>perpose perfectly well. I found this argument reasonable, I had the same 
>>>doubt, just wanted to double-check. So, why do we now need a new legacy 
>>>(a/drivers/ide/legacy/ide_platform.c) driver when a "modern" driver 
>>>exists?

>>We don't *need* it but some people still want to use old IDE and the
>>author was willing to make it neatly compatible so that anything that
>>works with the pata_platform should be able to use the ide_platform
>>driver and vice versa. For the shorter term that can only be a good thing
>>- arch code doesn't need to care about which driver is used, end users
>>can pick and it doesn't end up adding new ties between code and old IDE.

> Ok, thanks for the explanation Alan. So, there's no technical argument, 
> just "being nice to the users", and add a new driver, which we know we'll 
> have to remove soon, thus having to persuade its users, who by that time 

    Define "soon". :-)

> will get used to it and will not want to invest money into switching to 
> another one...

    Invest into what if the drivers are functionally identical?

> Thanks
> Guennadi

MBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-26 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-25 16:53 [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC8349E-mITX: use platform IDE driver for CF interface Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53   ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53   ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 17:06   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 17:06     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 17:54     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:01       ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:01         ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:19         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:19           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:39           ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:39             ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:30             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:30               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 16:24               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 16:24                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:47             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:47               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-25 18:29         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:29           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:46           ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:46             ` Scott Wood
2007-07-26 17:21             ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:21               ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:45               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 17:45                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:36       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:36         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 23:56         ` Alan Cox
2007-07-31 23:56           ` Alan Cox
2007-08-06 17:19           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 17:19             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01 13:11         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 13:11           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 17:12     ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:12       ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 17:29   ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 17:29     ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 17:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Alan Cox
2007-07-25 17:43   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-26 19:28   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-25 17:59 ` Kumar Gala
2007-07-25 17:59   ` Kumar Gala
2007-07-25 19:00 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:00   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:05   ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:05     ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:16     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:16       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:17       ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:17         ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:35         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:35           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:31           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:31             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01 12:39             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 12:39               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06 17:16               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 17:16                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-25 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:37   ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:48   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:48     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:54     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:54       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:01       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 20:01         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 20:09         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:09           ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:39   ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25 20:39     ` Alan Cox
2007-07-26 19:41     ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 19:41       ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 19:52       ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2007-07-26 19:52         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 20:13         ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 20:11       ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 20:11         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28   ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz

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