From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC8349E-mITX: use platform IDE driver for CF interface
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:30:52 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A7A4EC.2020503@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46A798D8.7020906@freescale.com>
Scott Wood wrote:
>> Scott Wood wrote:
>>>> Also, what mmio-ide in the compat properly means in the context
>>>> of ide_platform which is able to handle both port and memory mapped
>>>> IDE.
>>> I/O-space is only valid in the context of PCI, ISA, or similar buses,
>>> and
>>> the bus-specific reg format indicates whether it's mmio-space or
>>> io-space.
>> You could save time on lecturing me (and use it to look on the
>> driver ;-).
> Sorry, I misread the question as being a mismatch between the
> capabilities of the device binding and the driver, not about the
> specific compatible name.
That too. :-)
> Something like "generic-ide" would probably be better.
I strongly disagree with "generic" part. The generic IDE could only be
said of 1:1 I/O mapped IDE ports, not about this fancy mapping.
>>> What is board specific about a set of standard IDE registers at a given
>> The regisrer mapping used is highly non-standard.
> The gap between registers is nonstandard, but that's a fairly common
> type of noncompliance in embedded-land, and probably merits being
That is only a common variation of embedded non-compliancy (which doesn't
make it a compliancy. ;-)
There are worse cases in the bi-endian land, even with the standard 8-bit
regs and 1-byte stride. *Hopefully*, this driver could also support those...
> supported in a generic way. I wouldn't call it "highly" nonstandard.
Yeah, there are also 8250 "compatible" UARTs that use 32-bit memory
accesses, and even worse -- with some registers mapped differently than on
8250 (those can't be called compatible by any means), yet 8250.c drives all of
them. I'm not really sure it was such a good idea to merge, say Alchemy UART
support into 8250.c.
> Is there some other non-standardness that I'm missing?
*Hopefully*, none. The original Kumar's driver pretended to handle
byte-lane swapping too (but that was ugly :-).
>> We're already in board specific code, so why the heck not? :-)
>>> various ns16550-compatibles out there as well?
>> I never suggested that -- what I did suggest was make of_serial.c
>> recognize certain chip types and register them with 8250 driver.
> What would be the advantage of maintaining a list of chips whose only
Nobody's talking about the advantages, just about the device tree accepted
practices (which we've already tried to bypass with MTD node -- causing a lot
of bashing until David Woodhouse came to help :-).
> difference is register spacing, rather than just using reg-shift and
> being done with it?
Please read the linuxppc-dev archive's threads following form David's
patches. Or maybe Segher could repeat this for you. ;-)
> -Scott
MBR, Sergei
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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>
Cc: Vitaly Bordug <vitb@kernel.crashing.org>,
linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, segher@kernel.crashing.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC8349E-mITX: use platform IDE driver for CF interface
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 23:30:52 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A7A4EC.2020503@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46A798D8.7020906@freescale.com>
Scott Wood wrote:
>> Scott Wood wrote:
>>>> Also, what mmio-ide in the compat properly means in the context
>>>> of ide_platform which is able to handle both port and memory mapped
>>>> IDE.
>>> I/O-space is only valid in the context of PCI, ISA, or similar buses,
>>> and
>>> the bus-specific reg format indicates whether it's mmio-space or
>>> io-space.
>> You could save time on lecturing me (and use it to look on the
>> driver ;-).
> Sorry, I misread the question as being a mismatch between the
> capabilities of the device binding and the driver, not about the
> specific compatible name.
That too. :-)
> Something like "generic-ide" would probably be better.
I strongly disagree with "generic" part. The generic IDE could only be
said of 1:1 I/O mapped IDE ports, not about this fancy mapping.
>>> What is board specific about a set of standard IDE registers at a given
>> The regisrer mapping used is highly non-standard.
> The gap between registers is nonstandard, but that's a fairly common
> type of noncompliance in embedded-land, and probably merits being
That is only a common variation of embedded non-compliancy (which doesn't
make it a compliancy. ;-)
There are worse cases in the bi-endian land, even with the standard 8-bit
regs and 1-byte stride. *Hopefully*, this driver could also support those...
> supported in a generic way. I wouldn't call it "highly" nonstandard.
Yeah, there are also 8250 "compatible" UARTs that use 32-bit memory
accesses, and even worse -- with some registers mapped differently than on
8250 (those can't be called compatible by any means), yet 8250.c drives all of
them. I'm not really sure it was such a good idea to merge, say Alchemy UART
support into 8250.c.
> Is there some other non-standardness that I'm missing?
*Hopefully*, none. The original Kumar's driver pretended to handle
byte-lane swapping too (but that was ugly :-).
>> We're already in board specific code, so why the heck not? :-)
>>> various ns16550-compatibles out there as well?
>> I never suggested that -- what I did suggest was make of_serial.c
>> recognize certain chip types and register them with 8250 driver.
> What would be the advantage of maintaining a list of chips whose only
Nobody's talking about the advantages, just about the device tree accepted
practices (which we've already tried to bypass with MTD node -- causing a lot
of bashing until David Woodhouse came to help :-).
> difference is register spacing, rather than just using reg-shift and
> being done with it?
Please read the linuxppc-dev archive's threads following form David's
patches. Or maybe Segher could repeat this for you. ;-)
> -Scott
MBR, Sergei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-07-25 19:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-07-25 16:53 [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` [PATCH 2/2] [POWERPC] MPC8349E-mITX: use platform IDE driver for CF interface Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 16:53 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 17:06 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 17:06 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 17:54 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:01 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:01 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:19 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:19 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:39 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:39 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:30 ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2007-07-25 19:30 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 16:24 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 16:24 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:47 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-25 18:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 18:46 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 18:46 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-26 17:21 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:21 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:45 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 17:45 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-31 23:56 ` Alan Cox
2007-08-06 17:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 17:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01 13:11 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 13:11 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 17:12 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-26 17:12 ` Vitaly Bordug
2007-07-25 17:29 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 17:29 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 17:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Alan Cox
2007-07-25 17:43 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-25 17:59 ` Kumar Gala
2007-07-25 17:59 ` Kumar Gala
2007-07-25 19:00 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:00 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:05 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:05 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:16 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:16 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:17 ` Scott Wood
2007-07-25 19:35 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:35 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-31 22:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-31 22:31 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-01 12:39 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-01 12:39 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-08-06 17:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-06 17:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-07-25 19:37 ` [PATCH 1/2] [IDE] Platform IDE driver (was: MMIO IDE driver) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:37 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:48 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:48 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 19:54 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 19:54 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:01 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 20:01 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-25 20:09 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:09 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-25 20:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-25 20:39 ` Alan Cox
2007-07-26 19:41 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 19:41 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 19:52 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 19:52 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-07-26 20:13 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2007-07-26 20:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 20:11 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2007-07-26 19:28 ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
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