From: Andre Noll <maan@systemlinux.org>
To: Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:48:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080108164847.GA16462@skl-net.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrnfo77tv.2rr.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi>
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On 16:07, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
> I hate it: every time Linux crashes, e.g. due to power failure, it takes
> almost an hour to boot, because the kernel has decided to corrupt the
> superblock to indicate that it's been years since last file system
> check.
Use tune2fs to deactivate checking.
> And obviously the crappy init system provides no simple way to
> stop the checking, to put it in the background, or whatever.
Modify the init scripts or use another distro.
> The FOSS herd is totally concentrated on creating a WIMP idiot box --
> a cheap plastic clone of Windows -- instead of fixing such fundamental
> problems.
> Windows, by the way, boots like a blaze compared to woeful Linux crap
> (even without the very definition of pure shit: udev, which the crap
> known as Linux practically requires these days).
Don't use udev then. Good old static dev works fine if you have a fixed
set of devices.
> A partial contributor to the slow fsck process is:
>
> hde: ST3160023AS, ATA DISK drive
> hde: applying pessimistic Seagate errata fix
>
> # hdparm -t /dev/hde
> /dev/hde:
> Timing buffered disk reads: 48 MB in 3.01 seconds = 15.96 MB/sec
You're using the sil3112 driver? Edit its blacklist and remove the
entry for your drive. That gives you the usual speed.
> Linux noi 2.6.14 #1 PREEMPT Sun Oct 30 20:18:48 EET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
>
> I've tried upgrading, and failed: the megatonne monolith with a gazillion
> hidden options (and totally worthless make oldconfig)
Gradually upgrade to 2.6.15, 2.6.16...
> is impossible to compile these days,
Check your tool-chain. Many people compile recent kernels with no problems.
> and the distros' stock kernel are utter and total crap
> that load drivers in wrong order etc., and are difficult to configure
> (demanding crap that demands udev to edit their initrds).
Use a kernel.org version.
> Not to even speak of the udev-demanding scsi-mapping insanity of SATA
> etc. devices these days.
Nobody forces you to use udev. Moreover, you can write your own udev
rules that match your expectations.
> I've had it with Linux. It's no longer for power users. It's so complex
> that it's only for idiot users that are content with the shoddy defaults,
> and (paid) developers.
You're not ranting about Linux but about your Distro. Complain on
the corresponding distro-specific mailing list, use another distro
and and stop whining.
Thanks
Andre
--
The only person who always got his work done by Friday was Robinson Crusoe
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-08 16:07 The ext3 way of journalling Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39 ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24 ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14 7:15 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:42 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:57 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 11:11 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15 1:09 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10 ` me
2008-01-14 16:17 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39 ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14 0:36 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll [this message]
2008-01-08 17:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی"
2008-01-08 18:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 7:56 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30 ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 2:05 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 17:01 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 21:03 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 21:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 3:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09 7:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 8:00 ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09 8:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 9:54 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44 ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08 4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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2008-01-08 22:24 ` Bodo Eggert
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2008-01-11 16:22 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12 1:41 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12 7:10 ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
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