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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 17:53:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p73odbwqmx2.fsf@bingen.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <slrnfo77tv.2rr.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi> (Tuomo Valkonen's message of "Tue\, 8 Jan 2008 16\:07\:27 +0000 \(UTC\)")

Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi> writes:

> The ext3 journalling code can be summarised as:
>
>     superblock->last_checked = random();
>     sync(superblock)
>
> I hate it: every time Linux crashes, e.g. due to power failure, it takes
> almost an hour to boot,

tune2fs -i0 -c0 device      for each file system

Yes that should be default, unfortunately it is not. It's one 
of the first things I do on new machines.

> Thank you very much. The disk worked perfectly well without that "fix"

fsck is actually seek bound, most likely it won't make much difference
for fsck. Seeky disk IO is always slow on a spinning disk.

There's actually been a patchkit recently to make fsck much faster
by clustering metadata better so it can be reached with less seeks,
but that hasn't reached mainline yet and and will unfortunately
require freshly created file systems.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-01-08 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-08 16:07 The ext3 way of journalling Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20         ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32     ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49     ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39     ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41           ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24               ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13               ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23                 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14  7:15                     ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14  9:42                       ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14  9:48                         ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14  9:57                           ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44                             ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 11:11                             ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18                               ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27                                 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06                           ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03                             ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18                                 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13                                   ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15  1:09                                   ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32                                     ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10                       ` me
2008-01-14 16:17                         ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39                       ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14  0:36                   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 17:52   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07     ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی"
2008-01-08 18:16       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11     ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29     ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47         ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06     ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09  7:56       ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21         ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28           ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30       ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41         ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09  2:05     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-01-08 17:01   ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15     ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51       ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 21:03         ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 21:57         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09  3:21         ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09  7:55           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49             ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09  8:00           ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09  8:21             ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09  9:54       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25         ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44           ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53           ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47             ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08  4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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     [not found]     ` <9Jqhr-7l9-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]       ` <9JqKt-7Z5-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-01-08 22:24         ` Bodo Eggert
     [not found] ` <9Jqri-7ym-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]     ` <9JvKj-85h-41@gated-at.bofh.it>
2008-01-11 16:22       ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39         ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12  1:41           ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12  7:10             ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08               ` Matthias Schniedermeyer

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