From: Ondrej Zary <linux@rainbow-software.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>, Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:03:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801082203.11037.linux@rainbow-software.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <p734pdoqbva.fsf@bingen.suse.de>
On Tuesday 08 January 2008 21:51:53 Andi Kleen wrote:
> Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
> > Now, there are good reasons for doing periodic checks every N mounts
> > and after M months. And it has to do with PC class hardware. (Ted's
> > aphorism: "PC class hardware is cr*p").
>
> If these reasons are good ones (some skepticism here) then the correct
> way to really handle this would be to do regular background scrubbing
> during runtime; ideally with metadata checksums so that you can actually
> detect all corruption.
>
> But since fsck is so slow and disks are so big this whole thing
> is a ticking time bomb now. e.g. it is not uncommon to require tens
> of minutes or even hours of fsck time and some server that reboots
> only every few months will eat that when it happens to reboot.
> This means you get a quite long downtime.
That's why I always do "tune2fs -c 0 -i 0" on any new filesystem. It probably
should be default.
>
> -Andi
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-08 16:07 The ext3 way of journalling Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39 ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24 ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14 7:15 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:42 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:57 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 11:11 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15 1:09 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10 ` me
2008-01-14 16:17 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39 ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14 0:36 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 17:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی"
2008-01-08 18:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 7:56 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30 ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 2:05 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 17:01 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 21:03 ` Ondrej Zary [this message]
2008-01-08 21:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 3:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09 7:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 8:00 ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09 8:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 9:54 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44 ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08 4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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2008-01-08 22:24 ` Bodo Eggert
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2008-01-11 16:22 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12 1:41 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12 7:10 ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
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