From: Christer Weinigel <christer@weinigel.se>
To: Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at>
Cc: Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:44:49 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080114104449.0d162707@cw05lap> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1200304629.24517.15.camel@tara.firmix.at>
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:57:09 +0100
Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at> wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 09:48 +0000, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
> > On 2008-01-14, Bernd Petrovitsch <bernd@firmix.at> wrote:
> > > Yes, that is a usual bug/problem in common distributions[0] as
> > > there is no real guarantee that your clock is not far off.
> >
> > It isn't, right after boot. But while the system is on, it sometimes
> > starts advancing very fast, 15min a day or so. To my knowledge, the
> > time the CMOS clock is not used then, but rather the kernel tracks
> > the
>
> > time based on scheduler interrupts, with ntpd occasionally
> > correcting. However, ntpd refuses to correct when the time has
> > drifted too much, causing even further drift.
>
> That shouldn't happen.
> > Nope, as explained above. ntpdate at boot wouldn't help much,
> > because the time is (approximately) correct after boot. It only
> > drifts after it.
>
> Aha. That's also strange. `ntpd` is able to (and always does AFAIK)
> modify the speed of the clock (to keep it synchronized) so that the
> error is usually much smaller than 1 second - also if you are behind
> high-jitter links and/or an a high stratum.
> That leads to the question why the clock starts to run like crazy at
> some time so that `ntpd` can't cope with it.
> Playing with `ntpd` parameters (e.g. increasing ) doesn't help I
> assume.
NTP can't correct too large errors. I had some similar problems
(one of many problems) with my HP Proliant desktop. Something totally
messed up the timekeeping, so the system would drift up to an hour or
so per day. I don't know what was wrong, I tried a lot of combinations
of timer options, but couldn't find any that fixed it. A kernel
upgrade a couple of weeks later fixed those problems and the system
time has been stable since then.
So upgrading to a recent kernel is probably a good idea.
/Christer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-14 10:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-08 16:07 The ext3 way of journalling Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39 ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24 ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14 7:15 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:42 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:57 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44 ` Christer Weinigel [this message]
2008-01-14 11:11 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15 1:09 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10 ` me
2008-01-14 16:17 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39 ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14 0:36 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 17:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی"
2008-01-08 18:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 7:56 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30 ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 2:05 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 17:01 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 21:03 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 21:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 3:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09 7:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 8:00 ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09 8:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 9:54 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44 ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08 4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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2008-01-08 22:24 ` Bodo Eggert
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2008-01-11 16:22 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12 1:41 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12 7:10 ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
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