From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: Tuomo Valkonen <tuomov@iki.fi>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: The ext3 way of journalling
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:51:53 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <p734pdoqbva.fsf@bingen.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080108181525.GL27800@mit.edu> (Theodore Tso's message of "Tue\, 8 Jan 2008 13\:15\:25 -0500")
Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu> writes:
>
> Now, there are good reasons for doing periodic checks every N mounts
> and after M months. And it has to do with PC class hardware. (Ted's
> aphorism: "PC class hardware is cr*p").
If these reasons are good ones (some skepticism here) then the correct
way to really handle this would be to do regular background scrubbing
during runtime; ideally with metadata checksums so that you can actually
detect all corruption.
But since fsck is so slow and disks are so big this whole thing
is a ticking time bomb now. e.g. it is not uncommon to require tens
of minutes or even hours of fsck time and some server that reboots
only every few months will eat that when it happens to reboot.
This means you get a quite long downtime.
-Andi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-01-08 20:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-08 16:07 The ext3 way of journalling Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:35 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 16:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 17:18 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 17:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:32 ` Diego Calleja
2008-01-08 18:42 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 16:39 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-08 16:59 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 21:49 ` John Stoffel
2008-01-09 13:39 ` Mathieu SEGAUD
2008-01-09 14:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-10 13:16 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 13:41 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-12 15:06 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-12 19:24 ` Andrey Vul
2008-01-13 22:13 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 22:23 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-13 23:11 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-14 7:15 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:42 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 9:48 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 9:57 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 10:44 ` Christer Weinigel
2008-01-14 11:11 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 11:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-14 11:27 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 10:06 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 11:03 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 12:46 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-14 16:18 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 23:13 ` Alejandro Riveira Fernández
2008-01-15 16:31 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-15 1:09 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2008-01-15 16:32 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-14 16:10 ` me
2008-01-14 16:17 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-14 22:39 ` John Hubbard
2008-01-14 0:36 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2008-01-08 16:48 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 17:52 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:07 ` Masoud Sharbiani "مسعود شربیانی"
2008-01-08 18:16 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:22 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 18:11 ` Jan Engelhardt
2008-01-08 18:20 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:29 ` Andre Noll
2008-01-08 18:40 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:47 ` Alan Cox
2008-01-08 23:06 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 7:56 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-09 10:21 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 10:28 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 12:30 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-10 11:30 ` Helge Hafting
2008-01-10 14:02 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-10 14:41 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2008-01-09 2:05 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-01-08 16:53 ` Andi Kleen
2008-01-08 17:01 ` Tuomo Valkonen
2008-01-08 18:15 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-08 20:51 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2008-01-08 21:03 ` Ondrej Zary
2008-01-08 21:57 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 3:21 ` Kyle Moffett
2008-01-09 7:55 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 12:49 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 8:00 ` BuraphaLinux Server
2008-01-09 8:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-01-09 9:54 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 12:25 ` Theodore Tso
2008-01-09 12:44 ` Michal Schmidt
2008-01-09 13:53 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-09 19:47 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2008-01-08 21:32 ` Pavel Machek
2008-02-08 4:16 ` Rogelio Serrano
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2008-01-08 22:24 ` Bodo Eggert
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2008-01-11 16:22 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-11 18:39 ` Lennart Sorensen
2008-01-12 1:41 ` Bodo Eggert
2008-01-12 7:10 ` TimC
2008-01-12 10:08 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
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