From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:57:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090320155730.GD6698@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C3B886.8080408@goop.org>
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:38:46AM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> Ah, interesting. So disabling interrupts prevents the RCU free from
>>> happening, and non-atomic pte fetching is a non-issue. So it doesn't
>>> address the PAE side of the problem.
>>
>> This would be rcu_sched, correct?
>
> I guess? Whatever it is that ends up calling all the rcu callbacks after
> the idle. A cpu with disabled interrupts can't go through idle, right? Or
> is there an explicit way to hold off rcu?
For synchronize_rcu() and call_rcu(), the only guaranteed way to hold
off RCU is rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock().
For call_rcu_bh, the only guaranteed way to hold off RCU is
rcu_read_lock_bh() and rcu_read_unlock_bh().
For synchronize_srcu(), the only guaranteed way to hold off RCU is
srcu_read_lock() and srcu_read_unlock().
For synchronize_sched() and call_rcu_sched(), anything that disables
preemption, including disabling irqs, holds off RCU.
Although disabling irqs can indeed hold off RCU in some other cases,
the only guarantee is for synchronize_sched() and call_rcu_sched().
Thanx, Paul
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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:57:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090320155730.GD6698@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C3B886.8080408@goop.org>
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:38:46AM -0700, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>>> Ah, interesting. So disabling interrupts prevents the RCU free from
>>> happening, and non-atomic pte fetching is a non-issue. So it doesn't
>>> address the PAE side of the problem.
>>
>> This would be rcu_sched, correct?
>
> I guess? Whatever it is that ends up calling all the rcu callbacks after
> the idle. A cpu with disabled interrupts can't go through idle, right? Or
> is there an explicit way to hold off rcu?
For synchronize_rcu() and call_rcu(), the only guaranteed way to hold
off RCU is rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock().
For call_rcu_bh, the only guaranteed way to hold off RCU is
rcu_read_lock_bh() and rcu_read_unlock_bh().
For synchronize_srcu(), the only guaranteed way to hold off RCU is
srcu_read_lock() and srcu_read_unlock().
For synchronize_sched() and call_rcu_sched(), anything that disables
preemption, including disabling irqs, holds off RCU.
Although disabling irqs can indeed hold off RCU in some other cases,
the only guarantee is for synchronize_sched() and call_rcu_sched().
Thanx, Paul
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Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-18 19:17 Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 19:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 19:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 21:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 21:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 21:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 22:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 22:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 22:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 23:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 23:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 23:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 23:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 23:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-19 9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-19 17:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-19 17:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 2:41 ` paravirtops kernel and HVM guests Nitin A Kamble
2009-04-03 3:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <70513aa50903181617r418ec23s744544dccfd812e8@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-18 23:37 ` Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 23:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 17:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-20 4:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20 4:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20 15:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-20 15:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-20 15:57 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2009-03-20 15:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
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