From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:05:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C17E22.9040807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C17BD8.6050609@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> Hm, awkward if flush_tlb_others doesn't IPI...
>>>
>>
>> How can it avoid flushing the tlb on cpu [01]? It's it's
>> gup_fast()ing a pte, it may as well load it into the tlb.
>
> xen_flush_tlb_others uses a hypercall rather than an IPI, so none of
> the logic which depends on there being an IPI will work.
Right, of course, that's what we were talking about. I thought
optimizations to avoid IPIs if an mm never visited a cpu.
>
>>> Simplest fix is to make gup_get_pte() a pvop, but that does seem
>>> like putting a red flag in front of an inner-loop hotspot, or
>>> something...
>>>
>>> The per-cpu tlb-flush exclusion flag might really be the way to go.
>>
>> I don't see how it will work, without changing Xen to look at the flag?
>>
>> local_irq_disable() is used here to lock out a remote cpu, I don't
>> see why deferring the flush helps.
>
> Well, no, not deferring. Making xen_flush_tlb_others() spin waiting
> for "doing_gup" to clear on the target cpu. Or add an explicit notion
> of a "pte update barrier" rather than implicitly relying on the tlb
> IPI (which is extremely convenient when available...).
Pick up a percpu flag from all cpus and spin on each? Nasty.
You could use the irq enabled flag; it's available and what native spins
on (but also means I'll need to add one if I implement this).
--
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Jan Beulich <jbeulich@novell.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:05:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C17E22.9040807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C17BD8.6050609@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> Hm, awkward if flush_tlb_others doesn't IPI...
>>>
>>
>> How can it avoid flushing the tlb on cpu [01]? It's it's
>> gup_fast()ing a pte, it may as well load it into the tlb.
>
> xen_flush_tlb_others uses a hypercall rather than an IPI, so none of
> the logic which depends on there being an IPI will work.
Right, of course, that's what we were talking about. I thought
optimizations to avoid IPIs if an mm never visited a cpu.
>
>>> Simplest fix is to make gup_get_pte() a pvop, but that does seem
>>> like putting a red flag in front of an inner-loop hotspot, or
>>> something...
>>>
>>> The per-cpu tlb-flush exclusion flag might really be the way to go.
>>
>> I don't see how it will work, without changing Xen to look at the flag?
>>
>> local_irq_disable() is used here to lock out a remote cpu, I don't
>> see why deferring the flush helps.
>
> Well, no, not deferring. Making xen_flush_tlb_others() spin waiting
> for "doing_gup" to clear on the target cpu. Or add an explicit notion
> of a "pte update barrier" rather than implicitly relying on the tlb
> IPI (which is extremely convenient when available...).
Pick up a percpu flag from all cpus and spin on each? Nasty.
You could use the irq enabled flag; it's available and what native spins
on (but also means I'll need to add one if I implement this).
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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>,
Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:05:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49C17E22.9040807@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C17BD8.6050609@goop.org>
Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> Hm, awkward if flush_tlb_others doesn't IPI...
>>>
>>
>> How can it avoid flushing the tlb on cpu [01]? It's it's
>> gup_fast()ing a pte, it may as well load it into the tlb.
>
> xen_flush_tlb_others uses a hypercall rather than an IPI, so none of
> the logic which depends on there being an IPI will work.
Right, of course, that's what we were talking about. I thought
optimizations to avoid IPIs if an mm never visited a cpu.
>
>>> Simplest fix is to make gup_get_pte() a pvop, but that does seem
>>> like putting a red flag in front of an inner-loop hotspot, or
>>> something...
>>>
>>> The per-cpu tlb-flush exclusion flag might really be the way to go.
>>
>> I don't see how it will work, without changing Xen to look at the flag?
>>
>> local_irq_disable() is used here to lock out a remote cpu, I don't
>> see why deferring the flush helps.
>
> Well, no, not deferring. Making xen_flush_tlb_others() spin waiting
> for "doing_gup" to clear on the target cpu. Or add an explicit notion
> of a "pte update barrier" rather than implicitly relying on the tlb
> IPI (which is extremely convenient when available...).
Pick up a percpu flag from all cpus and spin on each? Nasty.
You could use the irq enabled flag; it's available and what native spins
on (but also means I'll need to add one if I implement this).
--
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-03-18 23:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-18 19:17 Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 19:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 19:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 21:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 21:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:23 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 21:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 21:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 22:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:14 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 22:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 22:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 22:55 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 23:05 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-03-18 23:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 23:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-18 23:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 23:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-19 9:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-19 17:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:16 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-03-19 17:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-03 2:41 ` paravirtops kernel and HVM guests Nitin A Kamble
2009-04-03 3:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <70513aa50903181617r418ec23s744544dccfd812e8@mail.gmail.com>
2009-03-18 23:37 ` Question about x86/mm/gup.c's use of disabled interrupts Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-18 23:37 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 1:32 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-19 17:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-19 17:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-20 4:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20 4:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20 15:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-20 15:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-03-20 15:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-03-20 15:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
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