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From: Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 12:17:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910111217.31883.mb@bu3sch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1255255735.4095.53.camel@johannes.local>

On Sunday 11 October 2009 12:08:55 Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 17:52 +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> 
> > With kernel 2.6.32-rc3-00052-g0eca52a I got following KERN_ERR
> > messages just while using firefox:
> > 
> > [  130.527399] NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08
> 
> > Any idea? or known issue?
> 
> Are you using b43 (or wl12x1)? If so, it's a known issue, but the driver
> was recently left without an active maintainer in a brouhaha about a bug
> fix.
> 
> Cf. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/39440
> 
> Absent proof that mac80211 is safe to run with BHs enabled, the correct
> solution is disabling tasklets around the RX function, unlike all the
> proposed patches. However, Michael thinks it's such a bad solution that
> he has refused to implement it.

Ehm, no. That's not exactly true.
We call the non-_irqsafe functions, which by definition are designed to
run in non-irq (soft or hard) context. At least that's how I understand the
documentation, last time I read it.
Why don't you simply do local_bh_disable() in those functions, if they
require bh disabled, instead of depending on the driver doing it?

> FWIW, I believe the bug to be in b43 and wl12x1, and not as Michael
> thinks in the stack.

If mac80211 requires BHs disabled, it should do this.

-- 
Greetings, Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-11 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-11  9:52 NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08 Dave Young
2009-10-11 10:08 ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-11 10:17   ` Michael Buesch [this message]
2009-10-11 10:37     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-11 10:38     ` David Miller
2009-10-11 10:55   ` Dave Young
2009-10-11 11:18   ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-11 11:40     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-12  8:28       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-12  8:28         ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-12 10:32         ` David Miller
2009-10-12 10:32           ` David Miller
2009-10-12 11:25           ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-12 11:25             ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-15 11:40         ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-15 11:40           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-15 17:53           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-15 17:53             ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-21 18:46             ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-21 18:46               ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-21 21:19               ` [PATCH] net: Adjust softirq raising in __napi_schedule Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-21 21:19                 ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-21 21:25                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-21 21:25                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-21 21:37                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-21 21:37                     ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-21 21:39                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-21 21:39                     ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-22  8:27                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-22  8:27                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 14:39                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 14:39                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 14:46                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 14:46                           ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  7:41                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-26  7:44                             ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  7:44                               ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  7:54                               ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-26  7:58                                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  7:58                                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  8:47                                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-26  8:47                                     ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-26  8:56                                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-26  8:56                                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-27  0:52                                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-27  0:52                                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-27  7:01                                         ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-27  7:01                                           ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-27  7:01                                           ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-22 11:29                     ` David Miller
2009-10-22 11:29                       ` David Miller
2009-10-22 12:54                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2009-10-22 23:37               ` NOHZ: local_softirq_pending 08 Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-22 23:37                 ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 13:34                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 13:34                   ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 14:27                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 14:27                     ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 14:31                     ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 14:31                       ` Johannes Berg
2009-10-23 16:33                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-23 16:33                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2009-10-11 16:39 ` Joe Korty
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-05-30 21:48 Dave Jones
2012-05-31  7:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-31  7:56   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-05-31 14:04     ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08 16:46       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2012-06-01 22:57   ` Francois Romieu
2012-06-02 20:58     ` Marc Dionne
2012-06-05 23:15       ` Francois Romieu
2012-06-06  1:46         ` Dave Jones
2012-06-06  5:42           ` Francois Romieu
2012-06-08  2:34             ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08  7:57               ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-08 14:23                 ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08 14:51                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-08 20:27                     ` Francois Romieu
2012-06-08 20:41                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-08 21:53                         ` Francois Romieu
2012-06-08 22:33                           ` Marc Dionne
2012-06-10 20:40                             ` Dave Jones
2012-06-25 12:38                           ` Johannes Stezenbach
2012-06-25 19:28                             ` Francois Romieu
2012-06-25 19:52                               ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08  8:32               ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-10-03 16:40 liran raz
2008-10-03 16:55 ` Scott Wood
2008-10-02 18:30 liran raz
2007-05-29  6:01 Rafał Bilski
2007-05-28 21:04 Rafał Bilski
2007-05-28 22:12 ` Anant Nitya

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