From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:35:25 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814193525.GB28840@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814174404.GA13338@t510.redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:44:05PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:26:19AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > + return (page->mapping && page->mapping == balloon_mapping);
> >
> > I am guessing this needs smp_read_barrier_depends, and maybe
> > ACCESS_ONCE ...
> >
>
> I'm curious about your guessing here. Could you ellaborate it further, please?
>
>
> > > +#else
> > > +static inline bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +static inline void putback_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +#endif /* (VIRTIO_BALLOON || VIRTIO_BALLOON_MODULE) && CONFIG_COMPACTION */
> > > +
> >
> > This does mean that only one type of balloon is useable at a time.
> > I wonder whether using a flag in address_space structure instead
> > is possible ...
>
> This means we are only introducing this feature for virtio_balloon by now.
> Despite the flagging address_space stuff is something we surely can look in the
> future, I quite didn't get how we could be using two different types of balloon
> devices at the same time for the same system. Could you ellaborate it a little
> more, please?
>
E.g. kvm can emulate hyperv so it could in theory have hyperv balloon.
This is mm stuff it is best not to tie it to specific drivers.
> > > +/* __isolate_lru_page() counterpart for a ballooned page */
> > > +bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > + if (WARN_ON(!movable_balloon_page(page)))
> >
> > Looks like this actually can happen if the page is leaked
> > between previous movable_balloon_page and here.
> >
> > > + return false;
>
> Yes, it surely can happen, and it does not harm to catch it here, print a warn and
> return.
If it is legal, why warn? For that matter why test here at all?
> While testing it, I wasn't lucky to see this small window opening, though.
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:35:25 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814193525.GB28840@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814174404.GA13338@t510.redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:44:05PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:26:19AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > + return (page->mapping && page->mapping == balloon_mapping);
> >
> > I am guessing this needs smp_read_barrier_depends, and maybe
> > ACCESS_ONCE ...
> >
>
> I'm curious about your guessing here. Could you ellaborate it further, please?
>
>
> > > +#else
> > > +static inline bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +static inline void putback_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +#endif /* (VIRTIO_BALLOON || VIRTIO_BALLOON_MODULE) && CONFIG_COMPACTION */
> > > +
> >
> > This does mean that only one type of balloon is useable at a time.
> > I wonder whether using a flag in address_space structure instead
> > is possible ...
>
> This means we are only introducing this feature for virtio_balloon by now.
> Despite the flagging address_space stuff is something we surely can look in the
> future, I quite didn't get how we could be using two different types of balloon
> devices at the same time for the same system. Could you ellaborate it a little
> more, please?
>
E.g. kvm can emulate hyperv so it could in theory have hyperv balloon.
This is mm stuff it is best not to tie it to specific drivers.
> > > +/* __isolate_lru_page() counterpart for a ballooned page */
> > > +bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > + if (WARN_ON(!movable_balloon_page(page)))
> >
> > Looks like this actually can happen if the page is leaked
> > between previous movable_balloon_page and here.
> >
> > > + return false;
>
> Yes, it surely can happen, and it does not harm to catch it here, print a warn and
> return.
If it is legal, why warn? For that matter why test here at all?
> While testing it, I wasn't lucky to see this small window opening, though.
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:35:25 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814193525.GB28840@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814174404.GA13338@t510.redhat.com>
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:44:05PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:26:19AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > + return (page->mapping && page->mapping == balloon_mapping);
> >
> > I am guessing this needs smp_read_barrier_depends, and maybe
> > ACCESS_ONCE ...
> >
>
> I'm curious about your guessing here. Could you ellaborate it further, please?
>
>
> > > +#else
> > > +static inline bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +static inline void putback_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > +#endif /* (VIRTIO_BALLOON || VIRTIO_BALLOON_MODULE) && CONFIG_COMPACTION */
> > > +
> >
> > This does mean that only one type of balloon is useable at a time.
> > I wonder whether using a flag in address_space structure instead
> > is possible ...
>
> This means we are only introducing this feature for virtio_balloon by now.
> Despite the flagging address_space stuff is something we surely can look in the
> future, I quite didn't get how we could be using two different types of balloon
> devices at the same time for the same system. Could you ellaborate it a little
> more, please?
>
E.g. kvm can emulate hyperv so it could in theory have hyperv balloon.
This is mm stuff it is best not to tie it to specific drivers.
> > > +/* __isolate_lru_page() counterpart for a ballooned page */
> > > +bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > +{
> > > + if (WARN_ON(!movable_balloon_page(page)))
> >
> > Looks like this actually can happen if the page is leaked
> > between previous movable_balloon_page and here.
> >
> > > + return false;
>
> Yes, it surely can happen, and it does not harm to catch it here, print a warn and
> return.
If it is legal, why warn? For that matter why test here at all?
> While testing it, I wasn't lucky to see this small window opening, though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-08-14 19:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-10 17:55 [PATCH v7 0/4] make balloon pages movable by compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-12 23:14 ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:14 ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:14 ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-13 8:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 8:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 17:44 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 17:44 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-08-14 19:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:03 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:03 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:03 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:00 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:00 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 8:52 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 8:52 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 8:52 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-14 20:00 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 17:44 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-13 8:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] virtio_balloon: introduce migration primitives to balloon pages Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-13 8:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 8:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 23:59 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-13 23:59 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-13 23:59 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 18:44 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:44 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:44 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 12:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15 12:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15 12:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 14:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20 2:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-20 2:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-20 2:29 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-20 5:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20 5:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20 5:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 3:13 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 3:13 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 3:13 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14 8:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 18:22 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:22 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:22 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:08 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:08 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:08 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:29 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:29 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:29 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:56 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 20:56 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 20:56 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 15:30 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-15 15:30 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-15 15:30 ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 21:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 21:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 22:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 22:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 22:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:34 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:11 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:11 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:11 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 9:05 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 9:05 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 9:05 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 9:25 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 11:16 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 11:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-21 5:31 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-21 5:31 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-22 0:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-22 0:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-22 0:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-21 5:31 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 9:48 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-13 8:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] mm: introduce putback_movable_pages() Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-12 23:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:26 ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
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