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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:48:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814194837.GA28863@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814193525.GB28840@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:35:25PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:44:05PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:26:19AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return (page->mapping && page->mapping == balloon_mapping);
> > > 
> > > I am guessing this needs smp_read_barrier_depends, and maybe
> > > ACCESS_ONCE ...
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm curious about your guessing here. Could you ellaborate it further, please?
> > 
> > 
> > > > +#else
> > > > +static inline bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > > +static inline void putback_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > > +#endif /* (VIRTIO_BALLOON || VIRTIO_BALLOON_MODULE) && CONFIG_COMPACTION */
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > This does mean that only one type of balloon is useable at a time.
> > > I wonder whether using a flag in address_space structure instead
> > > is possible ...
> > 
> > This means we are only introducing this feature for virtio_balloon by now.
> > Despite the flagging address_space stuff is something we surely can look in the
> > future, I quite didn't get how we could be using two different types of balloon
> > devices at the same time for the same system. Could you ellaborate it a little
> > more, please?
> > 
> 
> E.g. kvm can emulate hyperv so it could in theory have hyperv balloon.
> This is mm stuff it is best not to tie it to specific drivers.

But of course I agree this is not top priority, no need
to block submission on this, just nice to have.

> > > > +/* __isolate_lru_page() counterpart for a ballooned page */
> > > > +bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!movable_balloon_page(page)))
> > > 
> > > Looks like this actually can happen if the page is leaked
> > > between previous movable_balloon_page and here.
> > > 
> > > > +		return false;
> > 
> > Yes, it surely can happen, and it does not harm to catch it here, print a warn and
> > return.
> 
> If it is legal, why warn? For that matter why test here at all?
> 
> > While testing it, I wasn't lucky to see this small window opening, though.

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:48:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120814194837.GA28863@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120814193525.GB28840@redhat.com>

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:35:25PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 02:44:05PM -0300, Rafael Aquini wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:26:19AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	return (page->mapping && page->mapping == balloon_mapping);
> > > 
> > > I am guessing this needs smp_read_barrier_depends, and maybe
> > > ACCESS_ONCE ...
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm curious about your guessing here. Could you ellaborate it further, please?
> > 
> > 
> > > > +#else
> > > > +static inline bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > > +static inline void putback_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > > +static inline bool movable_balloon_page(struct page *page) { return false; }
> > > > +#endif /* (VIRTIO_BALLOON || VIRTIO_BALLOON_MODULE) && CONFIG_COMPACTION */
> > > > +
> > > 
> > > This does mean that only one type of balloon is useable at a time.
> > > I wonder whether using a flag in address_space structure instead
> > > is possible ...
> > 
> > This means we are only introducing this feature for virtio_balloon by now.
> > Despite the flagging address_space stuff is something we surely can look in the
> > future, I quite didn't get how we could be using two different types of balloon
> > devices at the same time for the same system. Could you ellaborate it a little
> > more, please?
> > 
> 
> E.g. kvm can emulate hyperv so it could in theory have hyperv balloon.
> This is mm stuff it is best not to tie it to specific drivers.

But of course I agree this is not top priority, no need
to block submission on this, just nice to have.

> > > > +/* __isolate_lru_page() counterpart for a ballooned page */
> > > > +bool isolate_balloon_page(struct page *page)
> > > > +{
> > > > +	if (WARN_ON(!movable_balloon_page(page)))
> > > 
> > > Looks like this actually can happen if the page is leaked
> > > between previous movable_balloon_page and here.
> > > 
> > > > +		return false;
> > 
> > Yes, it surely can happen, and it does not harm to catch it here, print a warn and
> > return.
> 
> If it is legal, why warn? For that matter why test here at all?
> 
> > While testing it, I wasn't lucky to see this small window opening, though.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-14 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 146+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-10 17:55 [PATCH v7 0/4] make balloon pages movable by compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 1/4] mm: introduce compaction and migration for virtio ballooned pages Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-12 23:14   ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:14     ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:14   ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-13  8:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13  8:26     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 17:44     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 17:44     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 17:44       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:35       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:35         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:48         ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2012-08-14 19:48           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:03           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:03           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:03             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:00         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:00         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:00           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:23           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:23             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  8:52           ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  8:52             ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  8:52             ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-14 19:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13  8:26   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 2/4] virtio_balloon: introduce migration primitives to balloon pages Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-13  8:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13  8:41     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 23:59     ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-13 23:59       ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14  8:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14  8:33         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 18:44         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:44           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:31             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 12:34             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15 12:34               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15 14:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 14:40                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 14:40                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20  2:29                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-20  2:29                   ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-20  5:12                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20  5:12                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20  5:12                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-20  2:29                 ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15 12:34             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:44         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-15  3:13         ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15  3:13           ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-15  3:13           ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14  8:33       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13 23:59     ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-14 18:22     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:22     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 18:22       ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:51         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:08           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:08             ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:24               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:29               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:29               ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:29                 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:49                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:54                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:56                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 20:56                       ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 21:38                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:38                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:38                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 15:30                         ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-15 15:30                           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-15 15:30                           ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 20:56                     ` Rik van Riel
2012-08-14 20:54                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:34                   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 21:34                     ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 22:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 22:48                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 22:48                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 21:34                   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:49                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:08           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 19:59         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:11         ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:11           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:11           ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-14 20:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 20:31             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  9:05           ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:05             ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:05             ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  9:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15  9:48               ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:48                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 10:01                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 10:01                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 10:01                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:16                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 11:16                     ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15 11:28                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:28                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:28                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-21  5:31                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-21  5:31                       ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-21  5:31                         ` Rusty Russell
2012-08-22  0:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-22  0:37                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-22  0:37                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-15 11:16                   ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:48               ` Mel Gorman
2012-08-15  9:25             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-14 19:51       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-13  8:41   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 3/4] mm: introduce putback_movable_pages() Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55   ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-12 23:26   ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:26     ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-12 23:26     ` Minchan Kim
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` [PATCH v7 4/4] mm: add vm event counters for balloon pages compaction Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55 ` Rafael Aquini
2012-08-10 17:55   ` Rafael Aquini

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