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From: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: stable@kernel.org, aeb@cwi.nl, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	miltonm@bga.com, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	WANG Cong <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:45:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32102.1265625951@neuling.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100208145240.FB58.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>


In message <20100208145240.FB58.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> you wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > > Why do we need page size independent stack size? It seems to have
> > > > > compatibility breaking risk.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think so. The current behaviour is clearly wrong, we dont need 
a
> > > > 16x larger stack just because you went from a 4kB to a 64kB base page
> > > > size. The user application stack usage is the same in both cases.
> > > 
> > > I didn't discuss which behavior is better. Michael said he want to apply
> > > his patch to 2.6.32 & 2.6.33. stable tree never accept the breaking
> > > compatibility patch.
> > > 
> > > Your answer doesn't explain why can't we wait it until next merge window.
> > > 
> > > btw, personally, I like page size indepent stack size. but I'm not sure
> > > why making stack size independency is related to bug fix.
> > 
> > I tend to agree.  
> > 
> > Below is just the bug fix to limit the reservation size based rlimit.
> > We still reserve different stack sizes based on the page size as
> > before (unless we hit rlimit of course).
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I agree your patch in almost part. but I have very few requests.
> 
> 
> > Mikey
> > 
> > Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit
> > 
> > When reserving stack space for a new process, make sure we're not
> > attempting to allocate more than rlimit allows.
> > 
> > This fixes a bug cause by b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba 
> > "mm: variable length argument support" and unmasked by
> > fc63cf237078c86214abcb2ee9926d8ad289da9b 
> > "exec: setup_arg_pages() fails to return errors".
> 
> Your initial mail have following problem use-case. please append it
> into the patch description.
> 
> 	On recent ppc64 kernels, limiting the stack (using 'ulimit -s blah') is
> 	now more restrictive than it was before.  On 2.6.31 with 4k pages I
> 	could run 'ulimit -s 16; /usr/bin/test' without a problem.  Now with
> 	mainline, even 'ulimit -s 64; /usr/bin/test' gets killed.

Ok,  I'll add this info in.  

> 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
> > Cc: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
> > Cc: stable@kernel.org
> > ---
> >  fs/exec.c |    7 +++++--
> >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Index: linux-2.6-ozlabs/fs/exec.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6-ozlabs.orig/fs/exec.c
> > +++ linux-2.6-ozlabs/fs/exec.c
> > @@ -627,10 +627,13 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm 
> >  			goto out_unlock;
> >  	}
> >  
> > +	stack_base = min(EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE,
> > +			 current->signal->rlim[RLIMIT_STACK].rlim_cur -
> > +			   PAGE_SIZE);
> 
> This line is a bit unclear why "- PAGE_SIZE" is necessary.

This is because the stack is already 1 page in size.  I'm going to
change that code to make it clearer...  hopefully :-)

> personally, I like following likes explicit comments.
> 
> 	stack_expand = EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE;
> 	stack_lim = ACCESS_ONCE(rlim[RLIMIT_STACK].rlim_cur);
> 
> 	/* Initial stack must not cause stack overflow. */
> 	if (stack_expand + PAGE_SIZE > stack_lim)
> 		stack_expand = stack_lim - PAGE_SIZE;
> 
> note: accessing rlim_cur require ACCESS_ONCE.
> 
> 
> Thought?

Thanks, looks better/clearer to me too.  I'll change, new patch coming....

Mikey

> 
> 
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP
> > -	stack_base = vma->vm_end + EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE;
> > +	stack_base = vma->vm_end + stack_base;
> >  #else
> > -	stack_base = vma->vm_start - EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE;
> > +	stack_base = vma->vm_start - stack_base;
> >  #endif
> >  	ret = expand_stack(vma, stack_base);
> >  	if (ret)
> > 
> 
> 
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
To: KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>
Cc: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, stable@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	Serge Hallyn <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	WANG Cong <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, miltonm@bga.com, aeb@cwi.nl
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:45:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32102.1265625951@neuling.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100208145240.FB58.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com>


In message <20100208145240.FB58.A69D9226@jp.fujitsu.com> you wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > > Why do we need page size independent stack size? It seems to have
> > > > > compatibility breaking risk.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't think so. The current behaviour is clearly wrong, we dont need 
a
> > > > 16x larger stack just because you went from a 4kB to a 64kB base page
> > > > size. The user application stack usage is the same in both cases.
> > > 
> > > I didn't discuss which behavior is better. Michael said he want to apply
> > > his patch to 2.6.32 & 2.6.33. stable tree never accept the breaking
> > > compatibility patch.
> > > 
> > > Your answer doesn't explain why can't we wait it until next merge window.
> > > 
> > > btw, personally, I like page size indepent stack size. but I'm not sure
> > > why making stack size independency is related to bug fix.
> > 
> > I tend to agree.  
> > 
> > Below is just the bug fix to limit the reservation size based rlimit.
> > We still reserve different stack sizes based on the page size as
> > before (unless we hit rlimit of course).
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> I agree your patch in almost part. but I have very few requests.
> 
> 
> > Mikey
> > 
> > Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit
> > 
> > When reserving stack space for a new process, make sure we're not
> > attempting to allocate more than rlimit allows.
> > 
> > This fixes a bug cause by b6a2fea39318e43fee84fa7b0b90d68bed92d2ba 
> > "mm: variable length argument support" and unmasked by
> > fc63cf237078c86214abcb2ee9926d8ad289da9b 
> > "exec: setup_arg_pages() fails to return errors".
> 
> Your initial mail have following problem use-case. please append it
> into the patch description.
> 
> 	On recent ppc64 kernels, limiting the stack (using 'ulimit -s blah') is
> 	now more restrictive than it was before.  On 2.6.31 with 4k pages I
> 	could run 'ulimit -s 16; /usr/bin/test' without a problem.  Now with
> 	mainline, even 'ulimit -s 64; /usr/bin/test' gets killed.

Ok,  I'll add this info in.  

> 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>
> > Cc: Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
> > Cc: stable@kernel.org
> > ---
> >  fs/exec.c |    7 +++++--
> >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Index: linux-2.6-ozlabs/fs/exec.c
> > ===================================================================
> > --- linux-2.6-ozlabs.orig/fs/exec.c
> > +++ linux-2.6-ozlabs/fs/exec.c
> > @@ -627,10 +627,13 @@ int setup_arg_pages(struct linux_binprm 
> >  			goto out_unlock;
> >  	}
> >  
> > +	stack_base = min(EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE,
> > +			 current->signal->rlim[RLIMIT_STACK].rlim_cur -
> > +			   PAGE_SIZE);
> 
> This line is a bit unclear why "- PAGE_SIZE" is necessary.

This is because the stack is already 1 page in size.  I'm going to
change that code to make it clearer...  hopefully :-)

> personally, I like following likes explicit comments.
> 
> 	stack_expand = EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE;
> 	stack_lim = ACCESS_ONCE(rlim[RLIMIT_STACK].rlim_cur);
> 
> 	/* Initial stack must not cause stack overflow. */
> 	if (stack_expand + PAGE_SIZE > stack_lim)
> 		stack_expand = stack_lim - PAGE_SIZE;
> 
> note: accessing rlim_cur require ACCESS_ONCE.
> 
> 
> Thought?

Thanks, looks better/clearer to me too.  I'll change, new patch coming....

Mikey

> 
> 
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_STACK_GROWSUP
> > -	stack_base = vma->vm_end + EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE;
> > +	stack_base = vma->vm_end + stack_base;
> >  #else
> > -	stack_base = vma->vm_start - EXTRA_STACK_VM_PAGES * PAGE_SIZE;
> > +	stack_base = vma->vm_start - stack_base;
> >  #endif
> >  	ret = expand_stack(vma, stack_base);
> >  	if (ret)
> > 
> 
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-08 10:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-06  0:43 Stack size protection broken on ppc64 Michael Neuling
2010-02-06  4:20 ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-06  4:20   ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-06 10:22   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-06 10:22     ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  0:04     ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  0:04       ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  0:07     ` [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  0:07       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  0:28       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  0:28         ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  5:06       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:06         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:11         ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  5:11           ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  5:22           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:22             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:31             ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  5:31               ` Anton Blanchard
2010-02-08  6:11               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  6:11                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  5:37             ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  5:37               ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-08  6:05               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  6:05                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  7:07                 ` Américo Wang
2010-02-08  7:07                   ` Américo Wang
2010-02-08  7:07                   ` Américo Wang
2010-02-08  7:11                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08  7:11                     ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  6:11                     ` [PATCH] Restrict initial stack space expansion " Michael Neuling
2010-02-09  6:11                       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09  6:46                       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  6:46                         ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-09  8:59                         ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09  8:59                           ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 21:25                           ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-09 21:25                             ` Andrew Morton
2010-02-09 21:51                             ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 21:51                               ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-09 22:27                               ` Helge Deller
2010-02-09 22:27                                 ` Helge Deller
2010-02-10  5:12                                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-10  5:12                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-10  5:30                                   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-10  5:30                                     ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-10  5:31                                   ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-10  5:31                                     ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-11 22:16                                     ` Helge Deller
2010-02-11 22:16                                       ` Helge Deller
2010-02-11 22:22                                       ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-11 22:22                                         ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-12  5:44                             ` [PATCH] Create initial stack independent of PAGE_SIZE Michael Neuling
2010-02-12  7:20                               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-12  9:02                                 ` Michael Neuling
2010-02-12  9:51                                   ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-02-08 10:45                 ` Michael Neuling [this message]
2010-02-08 10:45                   ` [PATCH] Restrict stack space reservation to rlimit Michael Neuling

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