From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, "David Weinehall" <tao@acc.umu.se>,
"Dongjun Shin" <djshin90@gmail.com>,
"Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, "Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
"Ulisses Furquim" <ulissesf@gmail.com>, CaT <cat@zip.com.au>,
"Evgeniy Polyakov" <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
"Roland Dreier" <rdreier@cisco.com>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>,
"Jamie Lokier" <jamie@shareable.org>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Bill Davidsen" <davidsen@tmr.com>,
"Albert Cahalan" <acahalan@gmail.com>,
"John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Ondrej Zajicek" <santiago@crfreenet.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>
Subject: Re: [Patch 04/18] include/linux/logfs.h
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:49:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <db91817d295770e459727005108b05e2@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181058836.16089.23.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
>>> It would be better if GCC had a 'nopadding' attribute which gave us
>>> what we need without the _extra_ implications about alignment.
>>
>> That's impossible; removing the padding from a struct
>> _will_ make accesses to its members unaligned (think
>> about arrays of that struct).
>
> It _might_ make accesses to _some_ of its members unaligned.
It _will_ make accesses to _at least one_ of the members
unaligned, in the second array element.
> That's why I said 'without the __EXTRA__ implications about alignment'.
>
> Obviously the lack of padding has its own implications, but we don't
> necessarily need to assume that the struct may be at arbitrary
> locations.
The compiler does though, if it can't prove otherwise.
What would "nopadding" buy us, anyway?
Segher
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
"John Stoffel" <john@stoffel.org>, "Willy Tarreau" <w@1wt.eu>,
"Evgeniy Polyakov" <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>, CaT <cat@zip.com.au>,
"Ondrej Zajicek" <santiago@crfreenet.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Bill Davidsen" <davidsen@tmr.com>,
"Jan Engelhardt" <jengelh@linux01.gwdg.de>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Dongjun Shin" <djshin90@gmail.com>,
"Pekka Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
"Albert Cahalan" <acahalan@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
"Artem Bityutskiy" <dedekind@infradead.org>,
"Sam Ravnborg" <sam@ravnborg.org>,
"Jamie Lokier" <jamie@shareable.org>,
"Roland Dreier" <rdreier@cisco.com>,
"Jörn Engel" <joern@lazybastard.org>,
"Pavel Machek" <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"Ulisses Furquim" <ulissesf@gmail.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, "David Weinehall" <tao@acc.umu.se>
Subject: Re: [Patch 04/18] include/linux/logfs.h
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 20:49:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <db91817d295770e459727005108b05e2@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181058836.16089.23.camel@hades.cambridge.redhat.com>
>>> It would be better if GCC had a 'nopadding' attribute which gave us
>>> what we need without the _extra_ implications about alignment.
>>
>> That's impossible; removing the padding from a struct
>> _will_ make accesses to its members unaligned (think
>> about arrays of that struct).
>
> It _might_ make accesses to _some_ of its members unaligned.
It _will_ make accesses to _at least one_ of the members
unaligned, in the second array element.
> That's why I said 'without the __EXTRA__ implications about alignment'.
>
> Obviously the lack of padding has its own implications, but we don't
> necessarily need to assume that the struct may be at arbitrary
> locations.
The compiler does though, if it can't prove otherwise.
What would "nopadding" buy us, anyway?
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-05 18:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-03 18:38 LogFS take four Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:38 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:38 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:40 ` [Patch 01/18] fs/Kconfig Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:49 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:40 ` [Patch 02/18] fs/Makefile Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:49 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:41 ` [Patch 03/18] fs/logfs/Makefile Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:42 ` [Patch 04/18] include/linux/logfs.h Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:58 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 21:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 21:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04 9:12 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:12 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:12 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 13:38 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-04 13:38 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-04 13:38 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-04 14:02 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 14:02 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 14:02 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-05 15:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-05 15:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-05 15:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-05 15:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-05 18:49 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-05 18:49 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-06 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-06 8:50 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-06 8:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-06 8:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-06 8:59 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-06 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-06 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-06 12:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-05 20:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-05 20:39 ` Bill Davidsen
2007-06-03 18:43 ` [Patch 05/18] fs/logfs/logfs.h Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 21:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04 8:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-04 8:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-04 8:17 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-06-04 9:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:11 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 11:29 ` Paulo Marques
2007-06-06 11:29 ` Paulo Marques
2007-06-06 11:29 ` Paulo Marques
2007-06-06 11:29 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 11:29 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 11:29 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:43 ` [Patch 06/18] fs/logfs/compr.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:14 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 21:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 21:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04 8:54 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 8:54 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 8:54 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-04 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-04 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-03 18:44 ` [Patch 07/18] fs/logfs/dir.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 19:43 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 8:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 8:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 8:59 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 11:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 11:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 11:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:45 ` [Patch 08/18] fs/logfs/file.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:30 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:46 ` [Patch 09/18] fs/logfs/gc.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:46 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 22:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 22:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04 9:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 9:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 9:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 9:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 11:14 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 11:14 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 11:14 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 13:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 13:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 13:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-03 18:46 ` [Patch 10/18] fs/logfs/inode.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:27 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 17:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 17:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 17:40 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 17:40 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 17:40 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:28 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:28 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:28 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-11 23:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-11 23:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-11 23:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-11 23:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:47 ` [Patch 11/18] fs/logfs/journal.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:00 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:47 ` [Patch 12/18] fs/logfs/memtree.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:43 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:48 ` [Patch 13/18] fs/logfs/readwrite.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:57 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:48 ` [Patch 14/18] fs/logfs/segment.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:14 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 22:21 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04 9:07 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:07 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:07 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:49 ` [Patch 15/18] fs/logfs/super.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 20:42 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 16:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 16:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 16:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 17:38 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 17:38 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 17:38 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 18:33 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-10 19:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 19:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-10 19:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-10 19:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-10 19:20 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-06-03 18:50 ` [Patch 16/18] fs/logfs/progs/fsck.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 19:00 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:50 ` [Patch 17/18] fs/logfs/progs/mkfs.c Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 19:01 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 18:51 ` [Patch 18/18] fs/logfs/Locking Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 21:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 19:17 ` LogFS take four Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-06-03 19:20 ` Jan-Benedict Glaw
2007-06-03 19:19 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 19:19 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-03 22:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 22:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-03 22:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-04 9:05 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:05 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-04 9:05 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-06 13:50 ` Alexander Belyakov
2007-06-06 13:58 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 8:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 8:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 8:37 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-06-15 11:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 11:10 ` Jörn Engel
2007-06-15 11:10 ` Jörn Engel
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