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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>
Cc: intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, kernel-dev@igalia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 11/13] drm/xe: Force flush system memory AuxCCS framebuffers before scan out
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 22:35:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aNbq_j39EipWw_pV@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aNZDxGoYxVFfRNOu@intel.com>

On Fri, Sep 26, 2025 at 10:41:56AM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> I reverse engineered this a bit and there's definitely a
> MOCS issue at play.
> 
> First I noticed that if filled the entire MOCS table with
> UC the problem went away. I then filled the entire table
> with WB and essentially bisected what I need to make UC
> to fix it. And I had to repeat that same process starting
> from the other end of table.
> 
> Looks like there is some undocumented magic in the hardware.
> 
> MOCS 61 really is special:
> - MOCS 61 UC, others WB, select MOCS 61 -> no corruption
> 
> MOCS 0 and 63 are special in other ways:
> - MOCS X UC, others WB, select MOCS X -> corruption
> - MOCS X+0 UC, others WB, select MOCS X -> corruption
> - MOCS X+63 UC, others WB, select MOCS X -> corruption
> - MOCS X+0+63 UC, others WB, select MOCS X -> no corruption
>   where X != 61

OK, the MOCS 63 issue was caused by me having L3=WB still in
MOCS X. If I change MOCS X to L3=UC, MOCS 63 no longer makes
a difference. I suppose that means MOCS 63 is still used for
L3 evictions, even though bspec no longer mentions that fact
explicitly.

So MOCS 0 is the thing that really matters for CCS. And for
MOCS 0 only the LLC WB vs. UC selection matters. L3 WB vs. UC
doesn't seem to make any difference.

It's interesting that MOCS 60 is documented as a "CCS special case",
but in reality it's MOCS 0 that matters for CCS. I wonder if some
wires got crossed in the hw design and the wrong MOCS entry ended
up being used for CCS and no one noticed...

> 
> I didn't actually test all values of X there, but I did spot
> check a handful of them.
> 
> Also, ADL is affected, but TGL doesn't seem to be. Though I
> still need to check the situation on TGL a bit more thoroughly.

TGL actually works exactly the same as ADL. The only reason why
TGL worked correctly out of the box was that we use a different
MOCS table for TGL/RKL (IIRC because we started out with the
wrong table and early Mesa versions depended on that), and in
that table MOCS 0 is just 0x0, whereas on ADL MOCS 0 is WB.

And now I'm wondering how much performance we're leaving on
the floor with CCS by having a suboptimal MOCS 0 on TGL/RKL...

And I'm also curious about older platforms. I think those also
have MOCS 0 as UC. I'll need to test if those also have this
MOCS 0 special case for CCS...

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-26 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-23 10:07 [PATCH v12 00/13] AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 01/13] drm/xe/xelpg: Flush CCS when flushing caches Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 02/13] drm/xe/xelp: Quiesce memory traffic before invalidating AuxCCS Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-01 15:47   ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 03/13] drm/xe/xelp: Support auxccs invalidation on blitter Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 04/13] drm/xe/xelp: Use MI_FLUSH_DW_CCS on auxccs platforms Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 05/13] drm/xe/xelp: Wait for AuxCCS invalidation to complete Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 06/13] drm/xe: Export xe_emit_aux_table_inv Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 07/13] drm/xe/xelp: Add AuxCCS invalidation to the indirect context workarounds Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 08/13] drm/xe: Flush GGTT writes after populating DPT Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 09/13] drm/xe: Handle DPT in system memory Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 10/13] drm/xe/display: Add support for AuxCCS Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 11/13] drm/xe: Force flush system memory AuxCCS framebuffers before scan out Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:19   ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 10:48     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 12:01       ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 12:25         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 13:20           ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 14:40             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 14:52               ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-24 13:09                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-24 22:35                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-25  7:24                     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-25 10:08                       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-26  7:41                         ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-26 19:35                           ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2025-10-02 14:01                             ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-02 14:36                               ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-02 16:23                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-10-02 17:04                                 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-02 17:14                                   ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-10-02 22:02                                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 10:44   ` [PATCH v13 " Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 12/13] drm/xe: Do not use stolen memory for DPT on IGFX and AuxCCS Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 13/13] drm/i915/display: Expose AuxCCS frame buffer modifiers for Xe Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:15 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev15) Patchwork
2025-09-23 10:16 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-09-23 11:15 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-09-23 11:21 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev16) Patchwork
2025-09-23 11:22 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-09-23 12:03 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-09-23 13:26 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev15) Patchwork
2025-09-23 14:12 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev16) Patchwork
2025-09-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v12 00/13] AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-24  7:59   ` Tvrtko Ursulin

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