From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Cc: intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org, kernel-dev@igalia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 11/13] drm/xe: Force flush system memory AuxCCS framebuffers before scan out
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 15:40:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0fbf72f-4791-4aff-a4cb-299bf9ef265f@igalia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aNKer6J7Op2gGmtC@intel.com>
On 23/09/2025 14:20, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 01:25:58PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>
>> On 23/09/2025 13:01, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 11:48:59AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 23/09/2025 11:19, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 11:08:04AM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>>> Even though frame buffer objects are created as write-combined, in
>>>>>> practice, on top of all the ring buffer flushing, an additional clflush
>>>>>> seems to be needed before display engine can coherently scan out the
>>>>>> AuxCCS compressed data without transient artifacts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If for comparison we look at how i915 handles things (where AuxCCS works
>>>>>> fine), as it happens it has this same clflush before a frame buffer is
>>>>>> pinned for display for the first time, courtesy the dynamic tracking of
>>>>>> the buffer cache mode and setting the latter to uncached before handing
>>>>>> to display.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since xe considers the buffer object caching mode as static we can
>>>>>> implement the same approach by adding a flag telling us if the buffer
>>>>>> was ever pinned for display and flush on the first pin. Subsequent re-pins
>>>>>> will not repeat the clflush but so far I have not observed any glitching
>>>>>> after the first pin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@igalia.com>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/xe/display/xe_fb_pin.c | 14 +++++++++++++-
>>>>>> drivers/gpu/drm/xe/xe_bo_types.h | 14 +++++++++-----
>>>>>> 2 files changed, 22 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/display/xe_fb_pin.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/display/xe_fb_pin.c
>>>>>> index d8aa23b8cf14..f247c0da6b9e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/display/xe_fb_pin.c
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/xe/display/xe_fb_pin.c
>>>>>> @@ -382,6 +382,7 @@ static struct i915_vma *__xe_pin_fb_vma(const struct intel_framebuffer *fb,
>>>>>> struct xe_bo *bo = gem_to_xe_bo(obj);
>>>>>> struct xe_validation_ctx ctx;
>>>>>> struct drm_exec exec;
>>>>>> + bool first_pin;
>>>>>> int ret = 0;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if (!vma)
>>>>>> @@ -422,8 +423,11 @@ static struct i915_vma *__xe_pin_fb_vma(const struct intel_framebuffer *fb,
>>>>>> ret = xe_bo_validate(bo, NULL, true, &exec);
>>>>>> drm_exec_retry_on_contention(&exec);
>>>>>> xe_validation_retry_on_oom(&ctx, &ret);
>>>>>> - if (!ret)
>>>>>> + if (!ret) {
>>>>>> ttm_bo_pin(&bo->ttm);
>>>>>> + first_pin = !bo->display_pin;
>>>>>> + bo->display_pin = true;
>>>>>> + }
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> if (ret)
>>>>>> goto err;
>>>>>> @@ -436,6 +440,14 @@ static struct i915_vma *__xe_pin_fb_vma(const struct intel_framebuffer *fb,
>>>>>> if (ret)
>>>>>> goto err_unpin;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + /*
>>>>>> + * Force flush frame buffer data for non-coherent display access when
>>>>>> + * AuxCCS formats are used.
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> + if (first_pin && !xe_bo_is_vram(bo) && !xe_bo_is_stolen(bo) &&
>>>>>> + intel_fb_is_ccs_modifier(fb->base.modifier))
>>>>>> + drm_clflush_sg(xe_bo_sg(bo));
>>>>>
>>>>> You still haven't found the actual bug that causes the dirty cache?
>>>>
>>>> Sadly no. I cross referenced everything numerous times, including
>>>> workarounds, tried pretty much 1:1 i915 vs xe ring buffer programming,
>>>> but this extra flush always remains required. I also heard that how
>>>> flushing of the aux metadata works isn't documented anywhere and i915
>>>> does have this flush, by design or accident I don't know.
>>>
>>> i915 has the flush for the *whole* bo because it started out as
>>> cached. As soon as it undergoes a cached->uncached change (either
>>> due to set_caching ioctl or becoming a display scanout buffer) we
>>> clflush it and switch the GPU page tables from WB to UC. After
>>> that the bo stays uncached, and will need no further clflushes,
>>> assuming that everyone follows the rules:
>>>
>>> - CPU accesses via a WB mapping to an uncached bo will explicitly
>>> clflush before (invalidate) and after (write-back) the access
>>> - userspace always sets the GPU to use use "consult the PTE" MOCS
>>> setting for any potential scanout buffer. That way the GPU will
>>> use WB as long as the bo is cached, and once it becomes
>>> uncached the GPU also switches to UC accesses
>>>
>>> With xe I presume the BO should already start out as UC/WC with
>>> clean caches, and nothing should be dirtying the caches unless
>>> there is a real bug somewhere.
>>
>> Correct, it is all WC and MOCS are correctly set as WC.
>>
>> For example for the media compression flavour that was broken and needed
>> fixing in b412b144685f ("lib/intel/veboxcopy: Respect buffer MOCS
>> index"). (For the render compression flavour MOCS was already correct.)
>> But MOCS is not enough on its own for some reason.
>>
>> I also looked into the rendercopy surface state programming and that too
>> looks okay. In fact it is possible to see how using the wrong MOCS makes
>> things worse. But it also appears the surface state MOCS only applies to
>> the main surface, while the aux state is the one which appears to
>> contain cached/unflushed data.
>
> Are you saying that if you start scanning out a compressed buffer,
> then clean the caches, and then do frontbuffer rendering you get
> more cache dirt?
Render with the GPU or CPU? Do you know of any tests or userspaces which
do that?
Regards,
Tvrtko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-23 14:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-23 10:07 [PATCH v12 00/13] AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 01/13] drm/xe/xelpg: Flush CCS when flushing caches Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 02/13] drm/xe/xelp: Quiesce memory traffic before invalidating AuxCCS Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-01 15:47 ` Rodrigo Vivi
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 03/13] drm/xe/xelp: Support auxccs invalidation on blitter Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 04/13] drm/xe/xelp: Use MI_FLUSH_DW_CCS on auxccs platforms Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 05/13] drm/xe/xelp: Wait for AuxCCS invalidation to complete Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:07 ` [PATCH v12 06/13] drm/xe: Export xe_emit_aux_table_inv Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 07/13] drm/xe/xelp: Add AuxCCS invalidation to the indirect context workarounds Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 08/13] drm/xe: Flush GGTT writes after populating DPT Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 09/13] drm/xe: Handle DPT in system memory Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 10/13] drm/xe/display: Add support for AuxCCS Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 11/13] drm/xe: Force flush system memory AuxCCS framebuffers before scan out Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:19 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 10:48 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 12:01 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 12:25 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 13:20 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 14:40 ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2025-09-23 14:52 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-24 13:09 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-24 22:35 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-25 7:24 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-25 10:08 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-26 7:41 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-26 19:35 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-10-02 14:01 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-02 14:36 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-02 16:23 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-10-02 17:04 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-10-02 17:14 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-10-02 22:02 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-23 10:44 ` [PATCH v13 " Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 12/13] drm/xe: Do not use stolen memory for DPT on IGFX and AuxCCS Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:08 ` [PATCH v12 13/13] drm/i915/display: Expose AuxCCS frame buffer modifiers for Xe Tvrtko Ursulin
2025-09-23 10:15 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev15) Patchwork
2025-09-23 10:16 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-09-23 11:15 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-09-23 11:21 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev16) Patchwork
2025-09-23 11:22 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2025-09-23 12:03 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-09-23 13:26 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev15) Patchwork
2025-09-23 14:12 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure for AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers (rev16) Patchwork
2025-09-23 20:12 ` [PATCH v12 00/13] AuxCCS handling and render compression modifiers Ville Syrjälä
2025-09-24 7:59 ` Tvrtko Ursulin
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