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From: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
To: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala@sci.fi>
Cc: daniel.ritz@gmx.ch, Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rft]power management for usbtouch
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:52:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200806281252.39386.oliver@neukum.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080627212830.GJ19430@sci.fi>

Am Freitag 27 Juni 2008 23:28:30 schrieb Ville Syrjälä:
> > > Which will also fail the open() itself. Isn't that bad? That is, you can
> > > suspend an already open device without the users the device noticing
> > > but you can't open it if you happen to suspend it at just the right time.
> > > That doesn't strike me as good behaviour for a driver.
> > 
> > Root can also unbind the driver.
> 
> Sure, but in that case the behavior is consistent ie. the device
> disappears.

Sorry, I chose a bad example. Root can do stupid things like sending
control requests that change the configuration, setting or address of
a device. The effects are undefined and will differ from driver to driver
and open or closedness.
Forcibly suspending a device is a testing feature. If root abuses it,
he'll have to take the consequences.

	Regards
		Oliver

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-28 10:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-26 13:57 [rft]power management for usbtouch Oliver Neukum
2008-06-26 14:45 ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]   ` <20080626144545.GF22310-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-26 14:56     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]       ` <200806261656.06457.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27  8:50         ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-27 13:17           ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-06-27 16:10           ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]             ` <20080627161036.GE19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 19:07               ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-27 20:20                 ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                   ` <20080627202027.GG19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 20:41                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                       ` <200806272241.22513.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 20:51                         ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                           ` <20080627205147.GI19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 20:57                             ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-27 21:28                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-06-28 10:52                                 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2008-06-28 11:22                                   ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                                     ` <20080628112258.GK19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-28 12:53                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-28 16:33                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-06-28 22:47                                           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                             ` <200806290047.56736.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-30 15:29                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-06-30 15:47                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-06-30 16:02                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                                     ` <20080630115953.ZZRA012-NG0XCrj25/nJrYCpivWRnl5pS2h4L8biXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-30 16:16                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-06-30 16:30                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-06-30 16:58                                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-06-30 22:46                                                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                                       ` <200807010046.34219.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01  7:59                                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-07-01  9:08                                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2008-07-01 12:56                                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-07-01 15:00                                                               ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0807011058340.2780-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01 16:02                                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                                               ` <20080701085504.ZZRA012-NG0XCrj25/nJrYCpivWRnl5pS2h4L8biXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01 16:57                                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                                                   ` <200807011857.02259.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01 17:39                                                                     ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-07-01 19:03                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-06-27 13:17       ` Ville Syrjälä

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