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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <syrjala-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov
	<dmitry.torokhov-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Alan Stern
	<stern-nwvwT67g6+6dFdvTe/nMLpVzexx5G7lz@public.gmane.org>,
	daniel.ritz-OI3hZJvNYWs@public.gmane.org,
	linux-usb-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-input-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [rft]power management for usbtouch
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 20:39:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080701173937.GA7132@sci.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200807011857.02259.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 06:57:01PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Am Dienstag 01 Juli 2008 14:56:30 schrieb Dmitry Torokhov:
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 11:08:47AM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> > > Am Dienstag 01 Juli 2008 09:59:01 schrieb Jiri Kosina:
> 
> > > > I really don't think we want to return error in such cases. Either resume 
> > > > the device, or queue some requests (maybe depending on the type of 
> > > > requests), right?
> > > 
> > > We are talking about forcibly suspended devices, so they cannot be
> > > resumed. We could queue, but where would we end queuing? And we
> > > have to decide to stop it at some point, or we create a DoS problem.
> > > 
> > > The user has decided to put the device in a state in which the driver
> > > cannot properly function. If the user wanted the driver to work, he should
> > > select autosuspend.
> > >
> > 
> > That is the thing with the forced suspend - it leaves device out of
> > sync with the rest of the system. If user really does not want to use
> > the device it should probably be completely disconnected?
> 
> Yes, therefore I suggested doing the logical disconnect.

Would the persistence flag affect this? That is would the forced
suspend cause a reset_resume instead if the driver supports it?

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-07-01 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-26 13:57 [rft]power management for usbtouch Oliver Neukum
2008-06-26 14:45 ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]   ` <20080626144545.GF22310-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-26 14:56     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]       ` <200806261656.06457.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27  8:50         ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-27 13:17           ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-06-27 16:10           ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]             ` <20080627161036.GE19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 19:07               ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-27 20:20                 ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                   ` <20080627202027.GG19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 20:41                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                       ` <200806272241.22513.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 20:51                         ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                           ` <20080627205147.GI19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-27 20:57                             ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-27 21:28                               ` Ville Syrjälä
2008-06-28 10:52                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-28 11:22                                   ` Ville Syrjälä
     [not found]                                     ` <20080628112258.GK19430-ORSVBvAovxo@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-28 12:53                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2008-06-28 16:33                                         ` Alan Stern
2008-06-28 22:47                                           ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                             ` <200806290047.56736.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-30 15:29                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-06-30 15:47                                                 ` Alan Stern
2008-06-30 16:02                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                                     ` <20080630115953.ZZRA012-NG0XCrj25/nJrYCpivWRnl5pS2h4L8biXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2008-06-30 16:16                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-06-30 16:30                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-06-30 16:58                                                           ` Alan Stern
2008-06-30 22:46                                                     ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                                       ` <200807010046.34219.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01  7:59                                                         ` Jiri Kosina
2008-07-01  9:08                                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2008-07-01 12:56                                                             ` Dmitry Torokhov
2008-07-01 15:00                                                               ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                                                 ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0807011058340.2780-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01 16:02                                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                                               ` <20080701085504.ZZRA012-NG0XCrj25/nJrYCpivWRnl5pS2h4L8biXqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01 16:57                                                                 ` Oliver Neukum
     [not found]                                                                   ` <200807011857.02259.oliver-GvhC2dPhHPQdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2008-07-01 17:39                                                                     ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2008-07-01 19:03                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2008-06-27 13:17       ` Ville Syrjälä

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