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From: "Theodore Tso" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Derek Barbosa <debarbos@redhat.com>,
	Matthieu Baerts <matttbe@kernel.org>,
	Konstantin Ryabitsev <konstantin@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	users@kernel.org,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Finucane <stephenfin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Linking Patchwork with Sashiko?
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2026 01:06:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amBH3uJCxtHJ1cQ-@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260721224642.GI536385@killaraus.ideasonboard.com>

On Wed, Jul 22, 2026 at 01:46:42AM -0500, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > It really sounds like you want companies to move effort from AI into the
> > Linux kernel hardening. If Google did that, all it would do is move Roman
> > from working on Sashiko to working on hardening the kernel. I think Roman
> > is doing a hell of a lot more for the Linux kernel by staying with Sashiko!
> 
> As you said, it's not mutually exclusive. I'm sure Google has other
> kernel developers than Roman.

Google has contributed to various kernel hardening efforts; consider
the work of Kees Cook and Jann Horn.  And while I have my differences
with syzbot and oss-fuzz team, those are also security-related
projects that have helped improve the open source ecosystem.

And earlier this year, the number of companies including Anthropic,
Amazon Web Services (AWS), GitHub, Google, Google DeepMind, Microsoft,
and OpenAI contributed a total of $12.5 million dollars to the Open
Source Security Foundation[1].

[1] https://openssf.org/blog/2026/03/17/leading-tech-coalition-invests-12-5-million-through-openssf-and-alpha-omega-to-strengthen-open-source-security/

Could all of these companies contributed more?  Perhaps, especially
given how much the entire Tech Industry has invested in building new
Data Center.  But it's always been part of the Open Source model that
companies are free to choose how much an in what areas they will
contribute dollars or engineer time.  In practice, the "Stone Soup"
has worked pretty well over the past few decades, even if we wished
that Facebook had invested more of their profits from their Social
Media empire to Linux development; or Amazon or Microsoft investing
more of their profits for their varius lines of business towards Free
and Open Source projects; or if Netflix had contributed more of
Brendan Gregg's time towards improving tooling around BPF.

Personally, I'm much happier being grateful for the amount of time and
effort we've gotten from Brendan Gregg, or Omar Sandoval on drgn, as
opposed to stamping my feet and asking, "why didn't they and their
company contribute *more*"?

Cheers,

					- Ted




  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-22  5:08 UTC|newest]

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2026-05-30  8:30         ` Linking Patchwork with Sashiko? Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-05-30 15:57           ` Roman Gushchin
2026-05-30 18:00             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-05-30 18:49               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-05-30 18:53                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 15:51                   ` Derek Barbosa
2026-06-02 16:51                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 18:39                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-02 20:29                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 20:13                     ` Roman Gushchin
2026-06-02 20:39                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-02 20:44                         ` Roman Gushchin
2026-06-02 23:50                         ` Matthieu Baerts
2026-06-03  3:35                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-03  3:49                             ` Roman Gushchin
2026-06-04  6:52                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-07 17:56                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-06-30 20:32                               ` Derek Barbosa
2026-07-10  5:45                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-10  6:39                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-11  1:01                                     ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-13  7:55                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-13  9:41                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-13 20:04                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-14 22:55                                             ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-15  0:59                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15  2:00                                                 ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-15  3:06                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2026-07-15 12:21                                                     ` Jori Koolstra
2026-07-15 16:50                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-15 18:13                                                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-15 19:12                                                         ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 19:27                                                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-15 20:03                                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16 15:04                                                       ` August Zeller
2026-07-15 16:43                                                     ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 23:28                                                     ` lyude
2026-07-15  7:59                                                   ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-07-15  8:40                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-15 17:31                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-16  8:07                                                       ` Jacopo Mondi
2026-07-17  9:40                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-07-17 12:20                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-17 13:25                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-20 13:55                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-20 14:26                                                               ` Mark Brown
2026-07-20 18:24                                                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 16:42                                                                   ` Mark Brown
2026-07-21 19:15                                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 17:12                                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-21 19:18                                                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-20 19:16                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-21 15:43                                                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-17 15:22                                                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-21 16:27                                                             ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 12:38                                                   ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 16:28                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 21:08                                                     ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-15 23:20                                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-16  0:09                                                         ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-17 12:32                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-20 18:08                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-22  4:05                                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-21 18:25                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-21 19:25                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-21 22:46                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-21 23:41                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-22  5:06                                                             ` Theodore Tso [this message]
2026-07-15  3:54                                                 ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-15  7:13                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-15 12:42                                                     ` James Bottomley
2026-07-15 16:18                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 16:53                                                         ` James Bottomley
2026-07-15 17:09                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 16:11                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 17:00                                                     ` Jan Kara
2026-07-15 20:28                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 20:36                                                         ` James Bottomley
2026-07-15 20:42                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16  0:14                                                             ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-16  7:04                                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-15 23:32                                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-16  0:03                                                           ` Roman Gushchin
2026-07-21 16:01                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16  7:21                                                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-16 13:33                                                         ` Jan Kara
2026-07-21 22:43                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-21 23:44                                                             ` Steven Rostedt
2026-07-16 18:24                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2026-07-15 17:14                                                     ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-15 17:35                                                       ` Miguel Ojeda
2026-07-15 17:41                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 18:18                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2026-07-15 18:51                                                           ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 19:14                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2026-07-15 20:13                                                               ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-16  9:20                                                                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2026-07-16 15:10                                                                 ` August Zeller
2026-07-16 20:54                                                                   ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-21 16:03                                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 16:28                                                 ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-07-15 16:39                                                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 17:12                                                     ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-07-15 17:35                                                       ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 18:39                                                         ` Ihor Solodrai
2026-07-15 20:32                                                           ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 19:06                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 21:13                                                         ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-16  3:00                                                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-16  3:53                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-16  7:55                                                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2026-07-16 20:54                                                               ` Nicolas Dufresne
2026-07-16 22:30                                                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2026-07-16  6:23                                                           ` Jai Luthra
2026-07-16 12:32                                                             ` Theodore Tso
2026-07-15 17:41                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-07-15 19:10                                                       ` Laurent Pinchart
2026-07-15 19:55                                                         ` Mark Brown
2026-07-15 19:38                                                       ` Dmitry Torokhov
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