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From: "Tomas Winkler" <tomasw@gmail.com>
To: "Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: "Jouni Malinen" <j@w1.fi>,
	"Ron Rindjunsky" <rindjon@googlemail.com>,
	linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: HT action frame code
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:46:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1ba2fa240809090146p612083aclf3a2a924a81e75e9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1220948427.31304.107.camel@johannes.berg>

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Johannes Berg
<johannes@sipsolutions.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 11:14 +0300, Tomas Winkler wrote:
>
>> >> The current design assumes that hostapd takes care of all management
>> >> frames, so eyes, these would need to go to hostapd for processing and
>> >> then setup back to mac80211 through some new command..
>> >
>> > Well we can always pick out those action frames in the kernel if we want
>> > to, that's not the problem, is it?
>>
>> We've indeed has kept inside just BA session action frames.
>
> Hmm? I don't think I understand what you're trying to say.

Meaning that other management frames are forward to user space while
BA action frames
are treated inside mac80211.

>
>> > Should the design be changed? It seems that this is more related to the
>> > rate scale algorithm and the "can we support aggregation for this STA"
>> > question, both of which we currently have information about in the
>> > kernel and not hostapd.
>>
>> The decision might come both from RS and hostapd. RS just have more
>> info whether there will be gain from aggregation. When throughput is
>> not high enough it's just an overhead. Though some APs open session
>> immediately uppon association without and RS decision.
>> Our design is that BA can be triggered not only for RS.
>
> Well yeah, but I'm not sure we really want to add API to cfg80211 for
> this. It's not exactly hard to, but right now I don't see how hostapd
> would influence the decision.
>
> Also, I'm not talking about the AP triggering the aggregation session,
> this is entirely done with the rate scaling right now, but about an
> associated STA wanting to start an aggregation session. Aren't
> aggregation sessions always triggered by whoever wants to send? So if a
> STA notices it has lots of upload going on it could want to trigger a BA
> session, which is something we don't currently support afaict.

In iwl-agn-rs.c There is not difference if the peer is STA or AP. So
we support this already.
Thanks
Tomas

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-09  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-08 14:22 HT action frame code Johannes Berg
2008-09-08 20:09 ` Jouni Malinen
2008-09-08 20:48   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09  6:30     ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09  6:33   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09  8:14     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09  8:20       ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09  8:46         ` Tomas Winkler [this message]
2008-09-09  8:52           ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09  9:41             ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09  9:42               ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09  9:52                 ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09  9:55                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09 10:21                     ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09 10:25                       ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09 10:27                         ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09 10:53                           ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09 11:01                             ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-09 11:29                               ` [RFC] mac80211: make BA session handling independent of STA mode Johannes Berg
2008-09-09 12:28                                 ` Johannes Berg

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