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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Arjan van de Veen <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Andreas Herrmann <andreas.herrmann3@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 6/6] x86: add c1e aware idle function
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:21:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080618192148.GA4243@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610171712.465591661@linutronix.de>

On Thu 2008-06-12 10:29:00, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> C1E on AMD machines is like C3 but without control from the OS. Up to
> now we disabled the local apic timer for those machines as it stops
> when the CPU goes into C1E. This excludes those machines from high
> resolution timers / dynamic ticks, which hurts especially the X2 based
> laptops.
> 
> The current boot time C1E detection has another more serious flaw:
> some BIOSes do not enable C1E until the ACPI processor module is
> loaded. This causes systems to stop working after that point.
> 
> To work nicely with C1E enabled machines we use a separate idle
> function, which checks on idle entry whether C1E was enabled in the
> Interrupt Pending Message MSR. This allows us to do timer broadcasting

Entering idle is quite a common operation, and reading MSR is quite
slow. Is it possible to do better here?

What happens if ACPI BIOS toggles MSR on all cpus *while* we are
entering idle? This seems inherently racy...
							Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-06-18 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-12 10:28 [patch 0/6] AMD C1E aware idle support Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-12 10:28 ` [patch 1/6] x86: simplify idle selection Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-12 10:28 ` [patch 2/6] x86: cleanup C1E enabled detection Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-12 10:28 ` [patch 3/6] x86: use cpuinfo to check for interrupt pending message msr Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-13  6:55   ` Andreas Herrmann
2008-06-13 12:38     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-13 14:28       ` Andreas Herrmann
2008-06-12 10:28 ` [patch 4/6] x86: use cpuid to check MWAIT support for C1 Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-12 10:28 ` [patch 5/6] x86: move more common idle functions/variables to process.c Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-12 10:29 ` [patch 6/6] x86: add c1e aware idle function Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-13  0:55   ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-13  6:02     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-13  7:28       ` Andrew Morton
2008-06-18 19:21   ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2008-06-18 20:26     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-18 21:58       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-18 22:04         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-18 22:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-18 22:27             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-12 12:31 ` [patch 0/6] AMD C1E aware idle support Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-12 12:32   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <200806131118.31160.rjw@sisk.pl>
2008-06-13 11:52       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2008-06-12 13:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-12 14:24 ` Andreas Herrmann
2008-06-12 15:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-06-14 21:27 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-18 22:47 ` Len Brown
2008-07-04 14:35   ` Andreas Herrmann
2008-07-04 15:18     ` [PATCH] x86: emphasize that c1e aware idle stuff is AMD specific Andreas Herrmann
2008-08-05 17:42     ` [patch 0/6] AMD C1E aware idle support Pavel Machek
2008-08-06 13:21       ` Andreas Herrmann

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