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* Re: [RFC v2 1/5] tpm_crb: Add register definitions of TPM CRB chunking fields
       [not found] ` <20260324181244.17741-2-armenon@redhat.com>
@ 2026-05-09 14:41   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jarkko Sakkinen @ 2026-05-09 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arun Menon; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:40PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> Post-quantum cryptographic (PQC) algorithms can require buffer sizes that
> exceed the physical capacity of the TPM's Command/Response Buffer (CRB).
> To support these larger payloads, the TPM 2.0 CRB specification [1]
> allows for data chunking when the physical MMIO window is smaller than
> the required buffer size.
> 
> To support this protocol, the TPM driver must be able to detect the
> chunking capability, and signal the backend using specific start
> method flags, also known as the control area start register bits.
> 
> As per sections 6.4.2.2 and 6.5.3.9 of the specification document [1]
> Add 2 new bit flags to the existing enum crb_start and add the
> capability bit.
> - CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK: A capability bit used to detect if the backend
>   supports chunking.
> - CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK: A control bit to signal the TPM to consume the
>   current command buffer, or to get the next chunk from the response
>   buffer.
> - CRB_START_RESP_RETRY: A control bit to signal retransmission of a
>   response buffer.
> 
> [1] https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/PC-Client-Specific-Platform-TPM-Profile-for-TPM-2p0-v1p07_rc1_121225.pdf
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> ---
>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> index 6c25305c256ef..67c0061d4cab7 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> @@ -56,12 +56,18 @@ enum crb_ctrl_sts {
>  
>  enum crb_start {
>  	CRB_START_INVOKE	= BIT(0),
> +	CRB_START_RESP_RETRY = BIT(1),
> +	CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK = BIT(2),
>  };
>  
>  enum crb_cancel {
>  	CRB_CANCEL_INVOKE	= BIT(0),
>  };
>  
> +enum crb_intf {
> +	CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK = BIT(10),
> +};
> +
>  struct crb_regs_head {
>  	u32 loc_state;
>  	u32 reserved1;
> -- 
> 2.53.0
> 

Reviewed-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>

BR, Jarkko

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* Re: [RFC v2 2/5] tpm_crb: Add new wrapper function to invoke start method
       [not found] ` <20260324181244.17741-3-armenon@redhat.com>
@ 2026-05-09 14:43   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  2026-05-13 11:08     ` Arun Menon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jarkko Sakkinen @ 2026-05-09 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arun Menon; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:41PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> The current implementation handles different platform start methods
> (ACPI, ARM SMC, and ARM FFA) directly within crb_send(), but it is
> limited to triggering the CRB_START_INVOKE bit.
> 
> To support cmd/rsp chunking, the driver must be able to send other
> control bits, like CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, using these same
> platform-specific paths.
> 
> By moving this logic into a new helper function, crb_trigger_tpm(),
> the driver can now send any required control bit across all supported
> platforms. This prepares the driver for the upcoming chunking support.
> 
> No functional change is intended.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> ---
>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 50 ++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>  1 file changed, 27 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> index 67c0061d4cab7..922bcf7a69ad5 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> @@ -445,6 +445,32 @@ static int tpm_crb_smc_start(struct device *dev, unsigned long func_id)
>  }
>  #endif
>  
> +static int crb_trigger_tpm(struct tpm_chip *chip, u32 start_cmd)

tpm_crb_start?

I'd also split this into two commits:

1. One that splits the helper.
2. Second that adds the new stuff.

> +{
> +	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> +	int rc = 0;
> +	/* The reason for the extra quirk is that the PTT in 4th Gen Core CPUs
> +	 * report only ACPI start but in practice seems to require both
> +	 * CRB start, hence invoking CRB start method if hid == MSFT0101.
> +	 */
> +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER ||
> +	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_MEMORY_MAPPED ||
> +	    !strcmp(priv->hid, "MSFT0101"))
> +		iowrite32(start_cmd, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_START_METHOD ||
> +	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_START_METHOD)
> +		rc = crb_do_acpi_start(chip);
> +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_ARM_SMC) {
> +		iowrite32(start_cmd, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> +		rc = tpm_crb_smc_start(&chip->dev, priv->smc_func_id);
> +	}
> +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_CRB_WITH_ARM_FFA) {
> +		iowrite32(start_cmd, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> +		rc = tpm_crb_ffa_start(CRB_FFA_START_TYPE_COMMAND, chip->locality);
> +	}
> +	return rc;
> +}
> +
>  static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
>  {
>  	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> @@ -470,29 +496,7 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
>  	/* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
>  	wmb();
>  
> -	/* The reason for the extra quirk is that the PTT in 4th Gen Core CPUs
> -	 * report only ACPI start but in practice seems to require both
> -	 * CRB start, hence invoking CRB start method if hid == MSFT0101.
> -	 */
> -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER ||
> -	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_MEMORY_MAPPED ||
> -	    !strcmp(priv->hid, "MSFT0101"))
> -		iowrite32(CRB_START_INVOKE, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> -
> -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_START_METHOD ||
> -	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_START_METHOD)
> -		rc = crb_do_acpi_start(chip);
> -
> -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_ARM_SMC) {
> -		iowrite32(CRB_START_INVOKE, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> -		rc = tpm_crb_smc_start(&chip->dev, priv->smc_func_id);
> -	}
> -
> -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_CRB_WITH_ARM_FFA) {
> -		iowrite32(CRB_START_INVOKE, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> -		rc = tpm_crb_ffa_start(CRB_FFA_START_TYPE_COMMAND, chip->locality);
> -	}
> -
> +	rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
>  	if (rc)
>  		return rc;
>  
> -- 
> 2.53.0
> 

BR, Jarkko

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* Re: [RFC v2 3/5] tpm_crb: Implement command and response chunking logic
       [not found] ` <20260324181244.17741-4-armenon@redhat.com>
@ 2026-05-09 14:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  2026-05-13 11:07     ` Arun Menon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jarkko Sakkinen @ 2026-05-09 14:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arun Menon; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:42PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> With the introduction of support for Post Quantum Cryptography
> algorithms in TPM, the commands and responses will grow in size.
> Some TPMs have a physical hardware memory window (MMIO) that is
> smaller than the commands we need to send. Therefore this commit
> implements the core logic of sending/receiving data in chunks.
> 
> Instead of sending the whole command at once, the driver now sends it in
> small chunks. After each chunk, it signals the TPM using a nextChunk
> signal, and waits for the TPM to consume the data. Once the final piece
> is delivered, the driver signals the TPM to begin execution by toggling
> the start invoke bit. We use the same logic in reverse to read large
> responses from the TPM.
> 
> This allows the driver to handle large payloads even when the hardware
> interface has limited memory. This kernel-side support corresponds to
> the backend implementation in QEMU [1]. QEMU reassembles the chunks
> before passing them to the TPM emulator.
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20260319135316.37412-1-armenon@redhat.com/
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> ---

This is really bad at rationalizing the code change, which are heavy.

Couldn't you instead:

1. Rename crb_recv as tpm_crb_recv_no_chunks().
2. Add tpm_crb_recv_chunks().
3. Add new tpm_crb_recv(), which delegates either.

I would not mind too much if they have some duplicate logic. It's less
of a harm than convolution caused by interleaving.

>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 155 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
>  1 file changed, 114 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> index 922bcf7a69ad5..a97fc5e9927e3 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> @@ -104,11 +104,13 @@ struct crb_priv {
>  	u8 __iomem *cmd;
>  	u8 __iomem *rsp;
>  	u32 cmd_size;
> +	u32 rsp_size;
>  	u32 smc_func_id;
>  	u32 __iomem *pluton_start_addr;
>  	u32 __iomem *pluton_reply_addr;
>  	u8 ffa_flags;
>  	u8 ffa_attributes;
> +	bool chunking_supported;

Why not "u32 intf_id" i.e. cache the value of the register?

>  };
>  
>  struct tpm2_crb_smc {
> @@ -368,38 +370,6 @@ static u8 crb_status(struct tpm_chip *chip)
>  	return sts;
>  }
>  
> -static int crb_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
> -{
> -	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> -	unsigned int expected;
> -
> -	/* A sanity check that the upper layer wants to get at least the header
> -	 * as that is the minimum size for any TPM response.
> -	 */
> -	if (count < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> -		return -EIO;
> -
> -	/* If this bit is set, according to the spec, the TPM is in
> -	 * unrecoverable condition.
> -	 */
> -	if (ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_sts) & CRB_CTRL_STS_ERROR)
> -		return -EIO;
> -
> -	/* Read the first 8 bytes in order to get the length of the response.
> -	 * We read exactly a quad word in order to make sure that the remaining
> -	 * reads will be aligned.
> -	 */
> -	memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> -
> -	expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&buf[2]);
> -	if (expected > count || expected < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> -		return -EIO;
> -
> -	memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], expected - 8);
> -
> -	return expected;
> -}
> -
>  static int crb_do_acpi_start(struct tpm_chip *chip)
>  {
>  	union acpi_object *obj;
> @@ -474,6 +444,8 @@ static int crb_trigger_tpm(struct tpm_chip *chip, u32 start_cmd)
>  static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
>  {
>  	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> +	size_t offset = 0;
> +	size_t chunk_size;
>  	int rc = 0;
>  
>  	/* Zero the cancel register so that the next command will not get
> @@ -481,7 +453,7 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
>  	 */
>  	iowrite32(0, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_cancel);
>  
> -	if (len > priv->cmd_size) {
> +	if (len > priv->cmd_size && !priv->chunking_supported) {
>  		dev_err(&chip->dev, "invalid command count value %zd %d\n",
>  			len, priv->cmd_size);
>  		return -E2BIG;
> @@ -491,18 +463,108 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
>  	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_PLUTON)
>  		__crb_cmd_ready(&chip->dev, priv, chip->locality);
>  
> -	memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf, len);
> +	while (offset < len) {
> +		chunk_size = min_t(size_t, len - offset, priv->cmd_size);
>  
> -	/* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> -	wmb();
> -
> -	rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> -	if (rc)
> -		return rc;
> +		if (chunk_size == 0)
> +			break;
>  
> +		memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf + offset, chunk_size);
> +		offset += chunk_size;
> +
> +		/* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> +		wmb();
> +		if (offset < len) {
> +			rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK);
> +			if (rc)
> +				return rc;
> +			if (!crb_wait_for_reg_32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_start,
> +			    CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, 0, TPM2_TIMEOUT_C)) {
> +				dev_err(&chip->dev,
> +					"Timeout waiting for backend to consume chunk\n");
> +				return -ETIME;
> +			}
> +		} else {
> +			rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> +			if (rc)
> +				return rc;
> +		}
> +	}
>  	return crb_try_pluton_doorbell(priv, false);
>  }
>  
> +static int crb_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
> +{
> +	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> +	unsigned int expected;
> +	size_t offset = 0;
> +	size_t chunk_size;
> +	size_t first_read;
> +	int rc;
> +
> +	/* A sanity check that the upper layer wants to get at least the header
> +	 * as that is the minimum size for any TPM response.
> +	 */
> +	if (count < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> +		return -EIO;
> +
> +	/* If this bit is set, according to the spec, the TPM is in
> +	 * unrecoverable condition.
> +	 */
> +	if (ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_sts) & CRB_CTRL_STS_ERROR)
> +		return -EIO;
> +
> +	/* Read the first 8 bytes in order to get the length of the response.
> +	 * We read exactly a quad word in order to make sure that the remaining
> +	 * reads will be aligned.
> +	 */
> +	memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> +
> +	expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&buf[2]);
> +	if (expected > count || expected < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> +		return -EIO;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Set chunk_size by comparing the size of the buffer that the upper layer has
> +	 * allocated (count) to the hardware tpm limit (priv->rsp_size).
> +	 * This is to prevent buffer overflow while writing to buf.
> +	 */
> +	chunk_size = min_t(size_t, count, priv->rsp_size);
> +	if (chunk_size < 8)
> +		return -EIO;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * Compare the actual size of the response we found in the header to the chunk_size.
> +	 */
> +	first_read = min_t(size_t, expected, chunk_size);
> +
> +	memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], first_read - 8);
> +	offset = first_read;
> +
> +	while (offset < expected) {
> +		if (!priv->chunking_supported) {
> +			dev_err(&chip->dev, "Response larger than MMIO and chunking not supported\n");
> +			return -EIO;
> +		}
> +
> +		rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK);
> +		if (rc)
> +			return rc;
> +
> +		if (!crb_wait_for_reg_32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_start,
> +					 CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, 0, TPM2_TIMEOUT_C)) {
> +			dev_err(&chip->dev, "Timeout waiting for backend response\n");
> +			return -ETIME;
> +		}
> +
> +		chunk_size = min_t(size_t, expected - offset, priv->rsp_size);
> +		memcpy_fromio(buf + offset, priv->rsp, chunk_size);
> +		offset += chunk_size;
> +	}
> +
> +	return expected;
> +}
> +
>  static void crb_cancel(struct tpm_chip *chip)
>  {
>  	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> @@ -727,6 +789,15 @@ static int crb_map_io(struct acpi_device *device, struct crb_priv *priv,
>  		goto out;
>  	}
>  
> +	if (priv->regs_h) {
> +		u32 intf_id = ioread32((u32 __iomem *)&priv->regs_h->intf_id);
> +
> +		if (intf_id & CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK) {
> +			priv->chunking_supported = true;
> +			dev_info(dev, "CRB Chunking is supported by backend\n");
> +		}
> +	}
> +
>  	memcpy_fromio(&__rsp_pa, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_rsp_pa, 8);
>  	rsp_pa = le64_to_cpu(__rsp_pa);
>  	rsp_size = ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_rsp_size);
> @@ -764,8 +835,10 @@ static int crb_map_io(struct acpi_device *device, struct crb_priv *priv,
>  	priv->rsp = priv->cmd;
>  
>  out:
> -	if (!ret)
> +	if (!ret) {
>  		priv->cmd_size = cmd_size;
> +		priv->rsp_size = rsp_size;
> +	}
>  
>  	__crb_go_idle(dev, priv, 0);
>  
> -- 
> 2.53.0
> 

BR, Jarkko

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* Re: [RFC v2 4/5] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support
       [not found] ` <20260324181244.17741-5-armenon@redhat.com>
@ 2026-05-09 14:54   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  2026-05-09 15:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  2026-05-13 11:09     ` Arun Menon
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jarkko Sakkinen @ 2026-05-09 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arun Menon; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:43PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> The size of the command is checked against TPM_BUFSIZE early on before
> even sending it to the backend. We therefore need to increase the
> TPM_BUFSIZE to allow support for larger commands.
> 
> For now, 8KB seems sufficient for ML-KEM and ML-DSA algorithms and it is
> also order-1 safe.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> ---
>  drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> index 87d68ddf270a7..26c3765fbd732 100644
> --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
>  #endif
>  
>  #define TPM_MINOR		224	/* officially assigned */
> -#define TPM_BUFSIZE		4096
> +#define TPM_BUFSIZE		8192
>  #define TPM_NUM_DEVICES		65536
>  #define TPM_RETRY		50
>  
> -- 
> 2.53.0
> 

Shouldn't this prepend previous patch?

BR, Jarkko

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* Re: [RFC v2 4/5] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support
  2026-05-09 14:54   ` [RFC v2 4/5] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support Jarkko Sakkinen
@ 2026-05-09 15:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
  2026-05-13 11:06       ` Arun Menon
  2026-05-13 11:09     ` Arun Menon
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jarkko Sakkinen @ 2026-05-09 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arun Menon; +Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 05:54:25PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:43PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > The size of the command is checked against TPM_BUFSIZE early on before
> > even sending it to the backend. We therefore need to increase the
> > TPM_BUFSIZE to allow support for larger commands.
> > 
> > For now, 8KB seems sufficient for ML-KEM and ML-DSA algorithms and it is
> > also order-1 safe.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > index 87d68ddf270a7..26c3765fbd732 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
> >  #endif
> >  
> >  #define TPM_MINOR		224	/* officially assigned */
> > -#define TPM_BUFSIZE		4096
> > +#define TPM_BUFSIZE		8192
> >  #define TPM_NUM_DEVICES		65536
> >  #define TPM_RETRY		50
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.53.0
> > 
> 
> Shouldn't this prepend previous patch?

Also did you remark that tpm_buf would also need changes as it is fixed
to PAGE_SIZE?

I've made a patch that essentially makes tpm_buf size variable as caller
does kzalloc:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/20260125192526.782202-12-jarkko@kernel.org/

I'd see this as pretty good long-term solution.

BR, Jarkko

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* Re: [RFC v2 4/5] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support
  2026-05-09 15:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
@ 2026-05-13 11:06       ` Arun Menon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Arun Menon @ 2026-05-13 11:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jarkko Sakkinen
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 06:07:11PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 05:54:25PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:43PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > > The size of the command is checked against TPM_BUFSIZE early on before
> > > even sending it to the backend. We therefore need to increase the
> > > TPM_BUFSIZE to allow support for larger commands.
> > > 
> > > For now, 8KB seems sufficient for ML-KEM and ML-DSA algorithms and it is
> > > also order-1 safe.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h | 2 +-
> > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > > index 87d68ddf270a7..26c3765fbd732 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > > @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
> > >  #endif
> > >  
> > >  #define TPM_MINOR		224	/* officially assigned */
> > > -#define TPM_BUFSIZE		4096
> > > +#define TPM_BUFSIZE		8192
> > >  #define TPM_NUM_DEVICES		65536
> > >  #define TPM_RETRY		50
> > >  
> > > -- 
> > > 2.53.0
> > > 
> > 
> > Shouldn't this prepend previous patch?
> 
> Also did you remark that tpm_buf would also need changes as it is fixed
> to PAGE_SIZE?

TPM_BUFSIZE can be increased, in its new location include/linux/tpm.h as
per the patch : https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/20260125192526.782202-12-jarkko@kernel.org/
and I think that alone will take care of the check if (size > TPM_BUFSIZE)
in tpm_common_write() in drivers/char/tpm/tpm-dev-common.c.

However I was not able to apply the mbox file cleanly on the existing
branches for-next-tpm and for-next-keys. I could apply them cleanly on
the old branch (next). Please guide.

I would only change the TPM_BUFSIZE set in 
[PATCH v9 11/11] tpm-buf: Implement managed allocations to 8192.

> 
> I've made a patch that essentially makes tpm_buf size variable as caller
> does kzalloc:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-integrity/20260125192526.782202-12-jarkko@kernel.org/
> 
> I'd see this as pretty good long-term solution.

Indeed. 

> 
> BR, Jarkko
> 


Regards,
Arun Menon


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* Re: [RFC v2 3/5] tpm_crb: Implement command and response chunking logic
  2026-05-09 14:53   ` [RFC v2 3/5] tpm_crb: Implement command and response chunking logic Jarkko Sakkinen
@ 2026-05-13 11:07     ` Arun Menon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Arun Menon @ 2026-05-13 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jarkko Sakkinen
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 05:53:51PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:42PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > With the introduction of support for Post Quantum Cryptography
> > algorithms in TPM, the commands and responses will grow in size.
> > Some TPMs have a physical hardware memory window (MMIO) that is
> > smaller than the commands we need to send. Therefore this commit
> > implements the core logic of sending/receiving data in chunks.
> > 
> > Instead of sending the whole command at once, the driver now sends it in
> > small chunks. After each chunk, it signals the TPM using a nextChunk
> > signal, and waits for the TPM to consume the data. Once the final piece
> > is delivered, the driver signals the TPM to begin execution by toggling
> > the start invoke bit. We use the same logic in reverse to read large
> > responses from the TPM.
> > 
> > This allows the driver to handle large payloads even when the hardware
> > interface has limited memory. This kernel-side support corresponds to
> > the backend implementation in QEMU [1]. QEMU reassembles the chunks
> > before passing them to the TPM emulator.
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20260319135316.37412-1-armenon@redhat.com/
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > ---
> 
> This is really bad at rationalizing the code change, which are heavy.
> 
> Couldn't you instead:
> 
> 1. Rename crb_recv as tpm_crb_recv_no_chunks().
> 2. Add tpm_crb_recv_chunks().
> 3. Add new tpm_crb_recv(), which delegates either.
> 
> I would not mind too much if they have some duplicate logic. It's less
> of a harm than convolution caused by interleaving.

Sure. I will amend this in v3.
Thank you.

> 
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 155 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> >  1 file changed, 114 insertions(+), 41 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > index 922bcf7a69ad5..a97fc5e9927e3 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > @@ -104,11 +104,13 @@ struct crb_priv {
> >  	u8 __iomem *cmd;
> >  	u8 __iomem *rsp;
> >  	u32 cmd_size;
> > +	u32 rsp_size;
> >  	u32 smc_func_id;
> >  	u32 __iomem *pluton_start_addr;
> >  	u32 __iomem *pluton_reply_addr;
> >  	u8 ffa_flags;
> >  	u8 ffa_attributes;
> > +	bool chunking_supported;
> 
> Why not "u32 intf_id" i.e. cache the value of the register?
> 
> >  };
> >  
> >  struct tpm2_crb_smc {
> > @@ -368,38 +370,6 @@ static u8 crb_status(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  	return sts;
> >  }
> >  
> > -static int crb_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
> > -{
> > -	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > -	unsigned int expected;
> > -
> > -	/* A sanity check that the upper layer wants to get at least the header
> > -	 * as that is the minimum size for any TPM response.
> > -	 */
> > -	if (count < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > -		return -EIO;
> > -
> > -	/* If this bit is set, according to the spec, the TPM is in
> > -	 * unrecoverable condition.
> > -	 */
> > -	if (ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_sts) & CRB_CTRL_STS_ERROR)
> > -		return -EIO;
> > -
> > -	/* Read the first 8 bytes in order to get the length of the response.
> > -	 * We read exactly a quad word in order to make sure that the remaining
> > -	 * reads will be aligned.
> > -	 */
> > -	memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> > -
> > -	expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&buf[2]);
> > -	if (expected > count || expected < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > -		return -EIO;
> > -
> > -	memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], expected - 8);
> > -
> > -	return expected;
> > -}
> > -
> >  static int crb_do_acpi_start(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  {
> >  	union acpi_object *obj;
> > @@ -474,6 +444,8 @@ static int crb_trigger_tpm(struct tpm_chip *chip, u32 start_cmd)
> >  static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
> >  {
> >  	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +	size_t offset = 0;
> > +	size_t chunk_size;
> >  	int rc = 0;
> >  
> >  	/* Zero the cancel register so that the next command will not get
> > @@ -481,7 +453,7 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
> >  	 */
> >  	iowrite32(0, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_cancel);
> >  
> > -	if (len > priv->cmd_size) {
> > +	if (len > priv->cmd_size && !priv->chunking_supported) {
> >  		dev_err(&chip->dev, "invalid command count value %zd %d\n",
> >  			len, priv->cmd_size);
> >  		return -E2BIG;
> > @@ -491,18 +463,108 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
> >  	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_PLUTON)
> >  		__crb_cmd_ready(&chip->dev, priv, chip->locality);
> >  
> > -	memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf, len);
> > +	while (offset < len) {
> > +		chunk_size = min_t(size_t, len - offset, priv->cmd_size);
> >  
> > -	/* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> > -	wmb();
> > -
> > -	rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> > -	if (rc)
> > -		return rc;
> > +		if (chunk_size == 0)
> > +			break;
> >  
> > +		memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf + offset, chunk_size);
> > +		offset += chunk_size;
> > +
> > +		/* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> > +		wmb();
> > +		if (offset < len) {
> > +			rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK);
> > +			if (rc)
> > +				return rc;
> > +			if (!crb_wait_for_reg_32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_start,
> > +			    CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, 0, TPM2_TIMEOUT_C)) {
> > +				dev_err(&chip->dev,
> > +					"Timeout waiting for backend to consume chunk\n");
> > +				return -ETIME;
> > +			}
> > +		} else {
> > +			rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> > +			if (rc)
> > +				return rc;
> > +		}
> > +	}
> >  	return crb_try_pluton_doorbell(priv, false);
> >  }
> >  
> > +static int crb_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
> > +{
> > +	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +	unsigned int expected;
> > +	size_t offset = 0;
> > +	size_t chunk_size;
> > +	size_t first_read;
> > +	int rc;
> > +
> > +	/* A sanity check that the upper layer wants to get at least the header
> > +	 * as that is the minimum size for any TPM response.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (count < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > +		return -EIO;
> > +
> > +	/* If this bit is set, according to the spec, the TPM is in
> > +	 * unrecoverable condition.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_sts) & CRB_CTRL_STS_ERROR)
> > +		return -EIO;
> > +
> > +	/* Read the first 8 bytes in order to get the length of the response.
> > +	 * We read exactly a quad word in order to make sure that the remaining
> > +	 * reads will be aligned.
> > +	 */
> > +	memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> > +
> > +	expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&buf[2]);
> > +	if (expected > count || expected < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > +		return -EIO;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Set chunk_size by comparing the size of the buffer that the upper layer has
> > +	 * allocated (count) to the hardware tpm limit (priv->rsp_size).
> > +	 * This is to prevent buffer overflow while writing to buf.
> > +	 */
> > +	chunk_size = min_t(size_t, count, priv->rsp_size);
> > +	if (chunk_size < 8)
> > +		return -EIO;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Compare the actual size of the response we found in the header to the chunk_size.
> > +	 */
> > +	first_read = min_t(size_t, expected, chunk_size);
> > +
> > +	memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], first_read - 8);
> > +	offset = first_read;
> > +
> > +	while (offset < expected) {
> > +		if (!priv->chunking_supported) {
> > +			dev_err(&chip->dev, "Response larger than MMIO and chunking not supported\n");
> > +			return -EIO;
> > +		}
> > +
> > +		rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK);
> > +		if (rc)
> > +			return rc;
> > +
> > +		if (!crb_wait_for_reg_32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_start,
> > +					 CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, 0, TPM2_TIMEOUT_C)) {
> > +			dev_err(&chip->dev, "Timeout waiting for backend response\n");
> > +			return -ETIME;
> > +		}
> > +
> > +		chunk_size = min_t(size_t, expected - offset, priv->rsp_size);
> > +		memcpy_fromio(buf + offset, priv->rsp, chunk_size);
> > +		offset += chunk_size;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	return expected;
> > +}
> > +
> >  static void crb_cancel(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  {
> >  	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > @@ -727,6 +789,15 @@ static int crb_map_io(struct acpi_device *device, struct crb_priv *priv,
> >  		goto out;
> >  	}
> >  
> > +	if (priv->regs_h) {
> > +		u32 intf_id = ioread32((u32 __iomem *)&priv->regs_h->intf_id);
> > +
> > +		if (intf_id & CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK) {
> > +			priv->chunking_supported = true;
> > +			dev_info(dev, "CRB Chunking is supported by backend\n");
> > +		}
> > +	}
> > +
> >  	memcpy_fromio(&__rsp_pa, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_rsp_pa, 8);
> >  	rsp_pa = le64_to_cpu(__rsp_pa);
> >  	rsp_size = ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_rsp_size);
> > @@ -764,8 +835,10 @@ static int crb_map_io(struct acpi_device *device, struct crb_priv *priv,
> >  	priv->rsp = priv->cmd;
> >  
> >  out:
> > -	if (!ret)
> > +	if (!ret) {
> >  		priv->cmd_size = cmd_size;
> > +		priv->rsp_size = rsp_size;
> > +	}
> >  
> >  	__crb_go_idle(dev, priv, 0);
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.53.0
> > 
> 
> BR, Jarkko
> 

Regards,
Arun Menon


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* Re: [RFC v2 2/5] tpm_crb: Add new wrapper function to invoke start method
  2026-05-09 14:43   ` [RFC v2 2/5] tpm_crb: Add new wrapper function to invoke start method Jarkko Sakkinen
@ 2026-05-13 11:08     ` Arun Menon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Arun Menon @ 2026-05-13 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jarkko Sakkinen
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 05:43:10PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:41PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > The current implementation handles different platform start methods
> > (ACPI, ARM SMC, and ARM FFA) directly within crb_send(), but it is
> > limited to triggering the CRB_START_INVOKE bit.
> > 
> > To support cmd/rsp chunking, the driver must be able to send other
> > control bits, like CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, using these same
> > platform-specific paths.
> > 
> > By moving this logic into a new helper function, crb_trigger_tpm(),
> > the driver can now send any required control bit across all supported
> > platforms. This prepares the driver for the upcoming chunking support.
> > 
> > No functional change is intended.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 50 ++++++++++++++++++++------------------
> >  1 file changed, 27 insertions(+), 23 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > index 67c0061d4cab7..922bcf7a69ad5 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > @@ -445,6 +445,32 @@ static int tpm_crb_smc_start(struct device *dev, unsigned long func_id)
> >  }
> >  #endif
> >  
> > +static int crb_trigger_tpm(struct tpm_chip *chip, u32 start_cmd)
> 
> tpm_crb_start?

Yes, it can be renamed. On the qemu side also, its renamed and made
consistent with the spec.

> 
> I'd also split this into two commits:
> 
> 1. One that splits the helper.
> 2. Second that adds the new stuff.

Yes. Will do. Thank you.

> 
> > +{
> > +	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +	int rc = 0;
> > +	/* The reason for the extra quirk is that the PTT in 4th Gen Core CPUs
> > +	 * report only ACPI start but in practice seems to require both
> > +	 * CRB start, hence invoking CRB start method if hid == MSFT0101.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER ||
> > +	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_MEMORY_MAPPED ||
> > +	    !strcmp(priv->hid, "MSFT0101"))
> > +		iowrite32(start_cmd, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> > +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_START_METHOD ||
> > +	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_START_METHOD)
> > +		rc = crb_do_acpi_start(chip);
> > +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_ARM_SMC) {
> > +		iowrite32(start_cmd, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> > +		rc = tpm_crb_smc_start(&chip->dev, priv->smc_func_id);
> > +	}
> > +	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_CRB_WITH_ARM_FFA) {
> > +		iowrite32(start_cmd, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> > +		rc = tpm_crb_ffa_start(CRB_FFA_START_TYPE_COMMAND, chip->locality);
> > +	}
> > +	return rc;
> > +}
> > +
> >  static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
> >  {
> >  	struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > @@ -470,29 +496,7 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
> >  	/* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> >  	wmb();
> >  
> > -	/* The reason for the extra quirk is that the PTT in 4th Gen Core CPUs
> > -	 * report only ACPI start but in practice seems to require both
> > -	 * CRB start, hence invoking CRB start method if hid == MSFT0101.
> > -	 */
> > -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER ||
> > -	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_MEMORY_MAPPED ||
> > -	    !strcmp(priv->hid, "MSFT0101"))
> > -		iowrite32(CRB_START_INVOKE, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> > -
> > -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_START_METHOD ||
> > -	    priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_START_METHOD)
> > -		rc = crb_do_acpi_start(chip);
> > -
> > -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_ARM_SMC) {
> > -		iowrite32(CRB_START_INVOKE, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> > -		rc = tpm_crb_smc_start(&chip->dev, priv->smc_func_id);
> > -	}
> > -
> > -	if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_CRB_WITH_ARM_FFA) {
> > -		iowrite32(CRB_START_INVOKE, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_start);
> > -		rc = tpm_crb_ffa_start(CRB_FFA_START_TYPE_COMMAND, chip->locality);
> > -	}
> > -
> > +	rc = crb_trigger_tpm(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> >  	if (rc)
> >  		return rc;
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.53.0
> > 
> 
> BR, Jarkko
> 

Regards,
Arun Menon


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* Re: [RFC v2 4/5] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support
  2026-05-09 14:54   ` [RFC v2 4/5] tpm: Increase TPM_BUFSIZE to 8kB for chunking support Jarkko Sakkinen
  2026-05-09 15:07     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
@ 2026-05-13 11:09     ` Arun Menon
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Arun Menon @ 2026-05-13 11:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jarkko Sakkinen
  Cc: linux-kernel, linux-integrity, Peter Huewe, Jason Gunthorpe

On Sat, May 09, 2026 at 05:54:21PM +0300, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2026 at 11:42:43PM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > The size of the command is checked against TPM_BUFSIZE early on before
> > even sending it to the backend. We therefore need to increase the
> > TPM_BUFSIZE to allow support for larger commands.
> > 
> > For now, 8KB seems sufficient for ML-KEM and ML-DSA algorithms and it is
> > also order-1 safe.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <armenon@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h | 2 +-
> >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > index 87d68ddf270a7..26c3765fbd732 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm.h
> > @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
> >  #endif
> >  
> >  #define TPM_MINOR		224	/* officially assigned */
> > -#define TPM_BUFSIZE		4096
> > +#define TPM_BUFSIZE		8192
> >  #define TPM_NUM_DEVICES		65536
> >  #define TPM_RETRY		50
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.53.0
> > 
> 
> Shouldn't this prepend previous patch?

yes, I am going to put this and the i2c patch before the chunking logic.
Thanks.

> 
> BR, Jarkko
> 

Regards,
Arun Menon


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